If you like fire, then draft Randle or Smart.
Following potential 2014 draftees
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green
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PG - 48 mins a night
SG - 48 mins a night
SF - 15 mins a night
Some simple third grade math gets you 111 mins a night for Burke, Smart, Hayward, Burks. That evens out to 28 mins per player. IDEAL. Toss in some night with foul trouble, matchups, off nights, whatever.
Or, hell, give Hayward 20 mins a night at SF instead of 15. Essentially 30 mins a night for each one. Problem solved. That still leaves 28 mins a night for another SF to come in and produce.
HOLY ****. IT WORKS.
Yeah, what about Burks.....unreal.
spycam1
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Gordon has fire, too. But paired with elite athleticism. And at a position of need.
fgcamel
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feel good about yourself?
green
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Today I'm leaning toward...
I think Rusillo said it best:
"If you want to like Gordon, you will watch his tape and be in love. If you don't want to like Gordon, you will watch his tape and come away hating him more."
His ceiling is so high, but his floor is pretty dang low as well. It will be interesting to see if he gets in a situation where he can develop and if he wants to develop.
Gordon's success might depend more on where he ends up than anything.
green
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What about Burks?
spycam1
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This should not be in question. At all.
Go watch his interviews at the combine. The dude is a perfectionist.
Game6Conley
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I dont make much of it either tbh, years ago i probably would have though. that move vs Noel does show the great touch hes has around the rim
I remember saying things like Bosh was a bigtime winner in HS during that draft and probably put too much weight into it ( i was 15)
and was guilty as anyone for thinking higher of Archie Goodwin because of consecutive state titles.
Kyle Anderson also managed to be terribly underwhelming freshman season after going 65-0 in his last 2 years of HS. I know the NBA scouts watch everything but i do wonder how much weight some of this HS stuff holds.
green
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I agree to a point. I would counter with this argument:
It's easy to be a perfectionist and a gym rat when you're poor and better than everyone else. It gets a lot harder when you have money in the bank and you are getting your *** kicked every night.
When the Pistons beat the crap out of Jordan, he got stronger and became the greatest player of all time. What happens if the Pistons never beat Jordan up? What happens if they did beat him up, and he didn't get stronger? Then we don't have Michael Jordan.
Most players don't react the way Michael did. Most players get their butts kicked, go on vacation, and come back the same player that lost to the Pistons the year before.
IF Gordon can get his butt kicked, work harder and come back better, then he is very, very rare.
Worked with thousands of athletes at every level and never seen that. Athletes who work their *** off in the Gym and are highly motivated in their workouts are always players with heart when they play. They might not be good but if someone is motivated enough to work their *** off in the gym then putting their heart on the field or court every play is the easy part.
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orangello
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I'm a Fish lover too but I thought that was public knowledge.
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orangello
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I'm going to throw a wrench in your minutes. Remove Hayward and the SF minutes since Gordon is the ONLY one of the 4 who can play SF.
Now you have 96 minutes to split between the 3. OK, that's perfect, right? We have a 3-man rotation with each one getting about 32 mins.
During some stretches, you will have Burke and Smart on the court together. That's a recipe for disaster: 1) neither can shoot; 2) they're both midgets if you have that lineup (Burks at PG; Smart at SG).
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Ya cause a coach would do exactly what you are saying.
Everything just always works out because of math
Game6Conley
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Noah's work ethic has been described as 'Indefatigable'
there's a bunch of stories... he really was playing pick-up basketball all the time, when he wasnt in school or at practice he was in the gym basically.
i dont think too many Highschool Prep stars walk a mile to work out at the local YMCA regularly.
his AAU coach said Noah would call him constantly to open the gym beyond his normal practice routine, sometimes 2 times a day
"I think in your career of coaching elite-level guys, everybody has something," Pastore said. "Some guys are great workers, some are great athletes, some are high-, high-character kids. Some are very intelligent. Noah is the one guy I've had in my career that had everything. "Noah has it all."
“Have you shaken his hand yet? Go shake his hand. It’s as hard as a catcher’s mitt. And usually when a kid’s hands are like that, you don’t have the touch. But he defies everything.”
"The type of way he's driven, I don't think a lot of people have that," said his cousin, Jeremie Jackley. "This dude, he goes to bed dreaming about it."
Jackley recalled a two-on-two pickup game where Noah, 12 at the time, was his teammate — and much younger than Jackley and their opponents. The other team smirked at the kid, then watched him drop a string of baskets to win.
"This is the golden child," Jackley recalled telling them. "Just remember that."
"Noah didn't talk no smack, no trash," Jackley said. "He was just the humble kid he is today. He just let his game talk.
"It's almost like he looks at it like, 'I was put on this earth to do this. There's no need for me to be boastful.' "
He isn't colorful in media interviews, either. Vonleh recalled being introduced to basketball by his cousins, including Jackley.
"I just wanted to be like them," he said.
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