Following potential 2014 draftees

[seattlejazzfan]

Have we completely forgotten about Randle ?

The prevalence of group think on this site is hysterical. So yes, JF has forgotten about him, but if you look anywhere outside of JF, Randle is definitely in the mix with JF favorites Vonleh, Gordon, Exum and Smart.

 

[Fishsticks]

All the things I want hear are in this article. Favors will be a 5 moving forward, Kanter may be on the trading block, Vonleh is highly regarded by the Jazz.

https://m.sltrib.com/sltrib/mobile3/58036765-219/vonleh-draft-jazz-perrin.html.csp

 

[Harcher]

I think the jazz wrote that article and handed it to Tony Jones. I find it hard to believe that the jazz would be that open about moving favors without WANTING to advertise. Don't know if it is a smokescreen or legit attempt to get offers for trading up.(the article posted by Vermin)

 

[silesian]

glass half empty

He's a great three point shooter though!

Through his first 13 college games from three; 1-6, not bad a modest 16.6%.

Through his next 13 college games from three; 12-18, a very good 66.6%.

His last 4 college games from three; 3-9, very average 33.3%.

When you cherry pick ridiculously small sample sizes (like 4 games) the analysis is meaningless. Korver made 9-31 threes in December 2013 over 6 games, an ugly 29%. terrible shooter, no?

A more meaningful sample might be his last 17 games, when, after getting over college adjustments and taking a higher frequency of 3s, he hit 56%. A 17 game fluke? I'd love to have a bigger sample size, sure. But an athletic and long big who rebounds and can also knock down a 3?

Regarding leading a team to tournament, Karl Malone in his freshman year did not lead La Tech to the NIT, NCAA or even the "mighty" Southland conference championship, playing against a far inferior class of teams (Texas Tech, Rice, McNeese, UL-Monroe).

 

[silesian]

I think the jazz wrote that article and handed it to Tony Jones. I find it hard to believe that the jazz would be that open about moving favors without WANTING to advertise. Don't know if it is a smokescreen or legit attempt to get offers for trading up.(the article posted by Vermin)

I think it is based on an offhand comment made by Perrin. I imagine the new coach will have a "little" say in the matter as well. Assuming they want to trade Kanter, it would only hurt his trade value.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

For $2M they can probably trade up into the first round with their #35. In fact, it may not cost them much at all. Teams near the end of the draft sometimes prefer unguaranteed picks, especially if they are up against the tax threshold.

good point but would the jazz want 3 gaurenteed rookie contracts?

 

[silesian]

Mizzou

So do Jazz draft any players from Missouri now that they have Snyder?
Might that be an issue?

Since he left Mizzou 8 years ago, not sure that would be an issue.

 

[orangello]

Hopefully.

Yup

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[Game6Conley]

good point but would the jazz want 3 gaurenteed rookie contracts?

probably not but they could use one on Porzingis or Tavares and stash him, the latest articles on Walter compare him to Andrew Bynum.

Fabtrey is wrong about his hands too, im telling yall theyre massive

As one Western Conference official said: "He has the biggest hands I've ever seen. He's a very interesting player."

Several NBA executives believe Tavares, who is 7-foot-3, has a strong chance to work himself into the first round of this month's NBA draft, and several teams choosing in the range of the 20s plan to bring him in for closer inspections, sources said.

He did get dunked on really bad the otherday, but on the play you really see his agility, when i find it ill post

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

I would rather stash ingles

 

[Game6Conley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEHRdBs5SgY

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEHRdBs5SgY

jazz need to fire boller and hire a Spanish soccer announcer.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

When you cherry pick ridiculously small sample sizes (like 4 games) the analysis is meaningless. Korver made 9-31 threes in December 2013 over 6 games, an ugly 29%. terrible shooter, no?

A more meaningful sample might be his last 17 games, when, after getting over college adjustments and taking a higher frequency of 3s, he hit 56%. A 17 game fluke? I'd love to have a bigger sample size, sure. But an athletic and long big who rebounds and can also knock down a 3?

Regarding leading a team to tournament, Karl Malone in his freshman year did not lead La Tech to the NIT, NCAA or even the "mighty" Southland conference championship, playing against a far inferior class of teams (Texas Tech, Rice, McNeese, UL-Monroe).

Hahaha. Great post. Whitechocolate just got owned, and eagerly waiting his response.


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[kabenac]

I think Adreian Payne is going to have a good career in the NBA. People claim he underachieved at MSU but I think he has a pretty high ceiling. If we don't draft Vonleh I hope we draft Payne at 23.

 

[Game6Conley]

I would rather stash ingles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgzgm1DCEaQ&feature=youtu.be&t=7m30s - a nice play by Inglis defending 6'11" 272lb. Jahlil Okafor.

From what i understand about Damien the biggest issues are motor, being turnover prone and questionable shooting mechanics. hes capable of doing it all though, and he plays really strong, still i cant help but think at 23 hes a bit of a reach. if the Jazz were to draft him there id be cool with it though. He'd be safely in the 1st round in next years draft or 2016.

Also it looks like 'Edy' Tavares is working on a buyout already, and will probably be looking to be in the NBA next year instead of being stashed.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think Adreian Payne is going to have a good career in the NBA. People claim he underachieved at Mich St. but I think he has a pretty high ceiling. If we don't draft Vonleh I hope we draft Payne at 23.

fixed

 

[Game6Conley]

check out his hand next to the basketball..

 

[Bodhi]

When you cherry pick ridiculously small sample sizes (like 4 games) the analysis is meaningless. Korver made 9-31 threes in December 2013 over 6 games, an ugly 29%. terrible shooter, no?

A more meaningful sample might be his last 17 games, when, after getting over college adjustments and taking a higher frequency of 3s, he hit 56%. A 17 game fluke? I'd love to have a bigger sample size, sure. But an athletic and long big who rebounds and can also knock down a 3?

Regarding leading a team to tournament, Karl Malone in his freshman year did not lead La Tech to the NIT, NCAA or even the "mighty" Southland conference championship, playing against a far inferior class of teams (Texas Tech, Rice, McNeese, UL-Monroe).

All jokes aside, are you my alt?

 

[Bodhi]

I missed the part where a 20pt game in college was a prerequisite to be a good player. Noted.

 

[Elizah Huge]

When you cherry pick ridiculously small sample sizes (like 4 games) the analysis is meaningless. Korver made 9-31 threes in December 2013 over 6 games, an ugly 29%. terrible shooter, no?

A more meaningful sample might be his last 17 games, when, after getting over college adjustments and taking a higher frequency of 3s, he hit 56%. A 17 game fluke? I'd love to have a bigger sample size, sure. But an athletic and long big who rebounds and can also knock down a 3?

Regarding leading a team to tournament, Karl Malone in his freshman year did not lead La Tech to the NIT, NCAA or even the "mighty" Southland conference championship, playing against a far inferior class of teams (Texas Tech, Rice, McNeese, UL-Monroe).

Hahaha. Great post. Whitechocolate just got owned, and eagerly waiting his response.

Damn, I got so owned man. How am I going to recover? I will be back in a couple of days after I do.

First off, you said it yourself using four games of analysis is meaningless, he had a hot stretch of four games where he shot 8-11 from three, which was 1/3 of his total threes on the season.

Yeah let's use his last 17 games, because he played 30 and 17 is half of that. Out of the last 17 games, he didn't ATTEMPT a three in 8 of those which is just a little less than half. Add 3 games to that where he just made 1 three. So out of his last 17 games, 8 of them he didn't even attempt a three and 3 of them he made only one 3.

But he started taking more threes at a higher frequency and made a higher frequency of them right? Laughable, once again 20 out of his 30 games he didn't make a three. Once again 0 out of his 30 games he never once had a game where he scored 20+ points.

He took 15 shots in two games and couldn't even hit 20 points? One game he even attempted 16 free throws and still couldn't hit 20!

Since you want to bring Malone into this, his freshman year he averaged 20.9 PPG for crying out loud. While Vonleh couldn't hit 20 points once his freshman year, Malone was averaging more than 20 points a game his freshman year.

Karl as a freshman averaged 20 and 10, so I don't think it was his fault he couldn't lead them to the tourny. I would say the same for Vonleh, but he averaged 11 and 9.

Using your logic, A. Gordon during his last 17 games at Arizona he went 9-19 from three, which is a very good 47.3% from three.

Please keep on coming with the weak-sauce arguments, and before anyone brings it up again the A. Gordon supporters embrace that he isn't a good shooter, but the Vonleh supporters say he is a great shooter.