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Following potential 2014 draftees

PKM said:
Wiggins - 17pts, 6rbs, 3asts 17.1 pts 5.9 rbs 1.5 apg
Parker - 15pts, 7.8rbs, 2.9asts 19.1 pts 8.7 rbs 1.2 apg
Randle - 15pts, 8rbs, 2asts 15 pts 10.4 rbs 1.4 asts
AnHarrison - 11pts, 4rbs, 6asts 10.9 pts 3.2 rbs 4 asts
AaHarrison - 13pts, 4rbs, 3asts 13.7 pts 3.0 rbs 1.9 asts
James Young - 12pts, 4.5rbs, 2.4asts 14.3 pts 4.3 rbs 1.7 asts
Noah Vonleh - 12pts, 5rbs, 1.3blks 11.3 pts 9.0 rbs 1.4 blks
Aaron Gordon - 14pts, 8rbs, 2asts, 1.8blks 12.4 pts 8 rbs 2 asts 1 blks
Marcus Smart - 15pts, 5.5rbs, 7asts 18 pts 5.9 rbs 4.8 asts
WCS - 11pts, 9rbs, 3asts, 2blks 6.8 pts 6.1 rbs .7 asts 2.9 blks

These are not in order and some have been left out because I just don't have a good feel (Exum, Mario, GRobinson, etc)
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Pretty good predictions for the most part other than the fact that PKM overestimates everyone's ability to pass (besides Gordon).
 
Lattimer said:
Haha I was just messin around. You should get some props for this stuff though. I have no prob giving credit where it's due and admitting if I'm wrong.


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Scouting is the type of **** that can't be mastered, everyone from amateurs to the highest paid professionals from ivy league schools think they have a winning formula, but every year egregious mistakes are made.

conversations about things like that are where i choose to spend my time, i love speculating about risk and reward. I've got no problems admitting when im wrong either, I've always said id rather have an opinion and be wrong than a wait and see attitude.

I talk about so many prospects that there's almost no chance i can get most of them right. But i like to Objectively look at the good and the bad;

Shabazz is on his way to being one of my worst draft grades yet, Len was injured this season, I would have taken him #1 if i were the Cavs. I thought Trey was more of a fringe lottery guy than top-10. however, I was a big time Hardaway Jr. fan, I liked him at 23, when he was graded in the second round on internet mocks. I had Mason Plumlee graded as a fringe lottery guy, always said MCW's size will not allow him to fall from the top 10 (he fell to 11).

Maybe i was fooled by Schroeder's shooting, but IIRC he shot like 43% from 3 in Germany, so i can see how that came to pass.

also at the time of the hoops summit, like many, i was under the impression that Dennis was busting the asses of Kasey Hill, a future lottery pick and Andrew Harrison a future top 3 pick.

I swear there was some story about how Dennis' teammates were surprised by his shooting before the season, then when the lights were on he was laying bricks. his quickness is every bit of what i thought, and he needs to add some weight, i still think hes got a shot, next season will be pivotal to his development though.
 
Bodhi said:
Do me next! What did I say?!
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haha ok ill look for one, im going to go thru it all, may take a few days or a week.


this thread is MASSIVE though, holy ****. I read fast, but it doesn't help much


theres no doubt about it. if all this **** was condensed into a draftwebsite, thered be a ****load of content
 
Even GM's who do this for a living get it wrong half the time. Buford is elite; everyone else has had some major head scratchers.
Appreciate your work, PG_AB. You and PKM have some major insight when it comes to college players.
 
Core4 said:
Even GM's who do this for a living get it wrong half the time. Buford is elite; everyone else has had some major head scratchers.
Appreciate your work, PG_AB. You and PKM have some major insight when it comes to college players.
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Buford isn't elite, he just has a really good ****ing coach and really good core players in place. Much easier to find guys when you can easily define what your system needs.

Also the fact that he usually drafts in the very back of the 1st round means he rarely gets accused of "missing or passing on" players in the draft.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
haha ok ill look for one, im going to go thru it all, may take a few days or a week.


this thread is MASSIVE though, holy ****. I read fast, but it doesn't help much


theres no doubt about it. if all this **** was condensed into a draftwebsite, thered be a ****load of content
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You can be kind of ****ty, but major props to you if you read through the whole thread.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Buford isn't elite, he just has a really good ****ing coach and really good core players in place. Much easier to find guys when you can easily define what your system needs.

Also the fact that he usually drafts in the very back of the 1st round means he rarely gets accused of "missing or passing on" players in the draft.
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Parker - 28th pick
Ginobli - 57th pick
Green - (trade) was the 46th pick
Leonard - (trade) was the 15th pick
Splitter - 28th pick

Yes, Buford has a great coach in Popovich. Or Popovich has a great GM in Buford. It's really a two-headed monster, I think, as to who makes the personnel moves. But it's hard to argue with their success. They hit a HR with Duncan in the draft the year they "tanked." But since then, they've made a lot of great calls in terms of picks and trades.
 
PKM said:
I got a coveted pick up game report from an asst coach at UK today.
He specifically asked that I not quote him on the 'scouting' report.. but one thing he said I have to quote.

"If Julius Randle isn't the most dominant player in the nation next year I'll chop off my balls and FedEx them to you for stomping on."
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this was too good not to bump
 
The more I think about it, I don't think that Milwaukee passes on Wiggins at #2, unless the Sixers throw the whole world at them to move from #3 to #2. If it's Embiid-Wiggins at the top, perhaps Philly could be a viable trade partner after all. I could see them being comfortable passing on Jabari for Vonleh at #5 + a nice package from the Jazz.
 
PKM said:
Most of you will have no idea who Kenny 'Sky' Walker is (top 5 all time Kentucky player) but he gave a great quote yesterday.

He lives around the UK bb program.. every practice, every game, guest spots on tv and radio.. NOT known for hyperbole.

Yesterday after a practice he said Julius Randle is the most talented player Kentucky has had since Shawn Kemp.

Aside from the jokes some of you are conjuring right now... that's some mighty high praise.
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bigmike said:
The more I think about it, I don't think that Milwaukee passes on Wiggins at #2, unless the Sixers throw the whole world at them to move from #3 to #2. If it's Embiid-Wiggins at the top, perhaps Philly could be a viable trade partner after all. I could see them being comfortable passing on Jabari for Vonleh at #5 + a nice package from the Jazz.
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I'd be comfortable passing on Parker to get Vonleh. Parker will likely be ROY. But he's simply not a transcedent player that warrants the Jazz giving up the #5 and a "nice package" to get. I might be wrong, but I like Gordon and Vonleh a lot and am just not impressed by Jabari's HUGE liability on defense.
 
The Cavs, Bucks, Sixers all need franchise players.
They can all get one with their picks.
It would be ridiculous to trade those picks.
They have all been at the bottom of the pile for years.
Embiid, Wiggins, Parker will sell tickets and help fill seats.
 
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