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ONE LOVE said:
A low release for a 7 footer is actually quite "high"?
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stitches said:
Not if he's defended by another 7 footer. "high" is relative...
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spycam1 said:
Good. I hope teams' GMs are just as dumb so we can nab him and get the steal of the draft once again.
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I don't think they properly rate the Euro leagues... good basketball out there... much better than college.
 
Also, he is playing today... not having a stellar game, but check out Ante Tomic... 20 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists in 20 minutes. He was 9/10 from the field.

Tibor has 12 and 9 in 17 minutes. One of these guys is on the team next year... the other is a decent trade asset. You have to figure scouts are at that game watching this to scout Mario.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't think they properly rate the Euro leagues... good basketball out there... much better than college.
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I don't think scouts underestimate the leagues. Even GMs that dont have a lottery pick fly over to scout projected top10 prospects, just in case someone from somewhere(Sacramento) proposes crazy trades.
I think some may misinterpret players within the parameters of teams and leagues they play in, as it's super hard to really accurately translate what's going to translate unless these players dominate the veteran competition in multiple ways. That's for example the main reason I knew Mirotic was going to be very good in the NBA. He was just good at so many things.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Also, he is playing today... not having a stellar game, but check out Ante Tomic... 20 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists in 20 minutes. He was 9/10 from the field.

Tibor has 12 and 9 in 17 minutes. One of these guys is on the team next year... the other is a decent trade asset. You have to figure scouts are at that game watching this to scout Mario.
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I think there is a reason DL asked for Pleiss from the OKC trade. I have a feeling bringing over Tomic is going to cost as too much. Either that or DL doesn't think Tomic is going to be a good fit.
 
BTP said:
I don't think scouts underestimate the leagues. Even GMs that dont have a lottery pick fly over to scout projected top10 prospects, just in case someone from somewhere(Sacramento) proposes crazy trades.
I think some may misinterpret players within the parameters of teams and leagues they play in, as it's super hard to really accurately translate what's going to translate unless these players dominate the veteran competition in multiple ways. That's for example the main reason I knew Mirotic was going to be very good in the NBA. He was just good at so many things.
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I meant the stats guys... they haven't found math that helps then accurately translate how good these guys are. No doubt scouts and other execs understand. I have just seen the math guys always underrating (in my opinion) international prospects.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I think there is a reason DL asked for Pleiss from the OKC trade. I have a feeling bringing over Tomic is going to cost as too much. Either that or DL doesn't think Tomic is going to be a good fit.
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He is also ready to come over soon... think he was supposed to come over last year. He had 12 pts 12 reb and a couple blocks. He probably has late first rounder type trade value.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He is also ready to come over soon... think he was supposed to come over last year. He had 12 pts 12 reb and a couple blocks. He probably has late first rounder type trade value.
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I've been skeptical about bringing over Tomic for I don't know how long. I just don't think he is a good fit as the 3rd big when we already have Gobert & Favors.


But I don't think Pleiss can be that guy neither - I do think DL is looking at Pleiss as a 4th big material. Booker is a placeholder until DL can find a replacement/long term 3rd big.
 
projected barefoot height

Karl Anthony Towns - 6ft 9
Jahlil Okafor - 6ft 9 1/4
Frank Kaminsky - 6ft 10
Willie Cauley-Stein - 6ft 11
Justice Winslow - 6ft 5
Sam Dekker - 6ft 6 1/4
 
BTP said:
I don't think scouts underestimate the leagues. Even GMs that dont have a lottery pick fly over to scout projected top10 prospects, just in case someone from somewhere(Sacramento) proposes crazy trades.
I think some may misinterpret players within the parameters of teams and leagues they play in, as it's super hard to really accurately translate what's going to translate unless these players dominate the veteran competition in multiple ways. That's for example the main reason I knew Mirotic was going to be very good in the NBA. He was just good at so many things.
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BTP, have you seen full games of Vezenkov? What do you think about his prospects? I have really hard time evaluating if he can translate his scoring/rebounding/efficiency at NBA level. He's one of the weirdest prospects to evaluate due to general and quite shocking lack of athleticism, while at the same time dominating competitions at every level he's been put in. I've seen only 3-4 full games of his... he's really crafty on drives, he gets his shot off incredibly quickly and has nice release, but you can simply see that there are physical limitations to what he can do on the next level... unless... he manages to overcome those with pure skill. I guess... I wonder at what point does his lack of explosiveness, quickness, jumping ability become insurmountable obstacle to success? Right now he's having one of the most impressive season in any of the major European leagues by a teenager in history. I read somewhere that he's the first player under 20 since Peja Stojakovic to average over 16 pts in the Greek league.

I wonder if we can draft him in the second and leave him in Barcelona(according to European media there are negotiations between him and Barcelona for a contract starting next year) for a couple of years and evaluate later if he's a Mirotic type of player that can help us at some point.
 
Fabtrey said:
projected barefoot height

Karl Anthony Towns - 6ft 9
Jahlil Okafor - 6ft 9 1/4
Frank Kaminsky - 6ft 10
Willie Cauley-Stein - 6ft 11
Justice Winslow - 6ft 5
Sam Dekker - 6ft 6 1/4
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Since when they play the game barefoot??
Agree with most of these, btw. WCS may be a half inch taller.

I said a couple months back that I think WCS may come in over 7' and I thought towns would measure under 6'11. Anxious to see.
 
Fabtrey said:
projected barefoot height

Karl Anthony Towns - 6ft 9
Jahlil Okafor - 6ft 9 1/4
Frank Kaminsky - 6ft 10
Willie Cauley-Stein - 6ft 11
Justice Winslow - 6ft 5
Sam Dekker - 6ft 6 1/4
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Winslow not actually very tall.. can he guard SFs in the NBA? Just throwing it out there.
 
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