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Following potential 2015 draftees

Did DL and the Jazz really like Olynk? Well, Kaminsky is a much better Olynk.
Or Adams. I don't remember it ever being stated which 5 they wanted. I just remember the rumor that they liked a five (some guessed it was Olynyk), but they knew he'd be off the board when they picked.
 
So bench bigs don't have to play defense? Oh ok, I didn't understand that.
We don't know that Frank will be a bad defender on the jazz.

Maybe turner, looney, portis, oubre, etc will all be bad defenders at the next level
Hell maybe some of those guys (turney, looney) will have health issues and barely ever play in the nba.
 
We don't know that Frank will be a bad defender on the jazz.

Maybe turner, looney, portis, oubre, etc will all be bad defenders at the next level
Hell maybe some of those guys (turney, looney) will have health issues and barely ever play in the nba.

You're right, we don't. It's just my opinion. But I've watched him play several times and I agree with the DX assessment. He makes an effort, but he struggled defensively at Wisconsin and it will be harder for him in the NBA. Coaching and a weight room might help, but it's still a pretty big wart. No one in the 12 range is without warts tho.
 
So Cameron Payne is really getting looks as high as 4 and 6? I like him but really? If he goes before we pick that'd be great... Keep pushing those other guys down to us.
 
I'd trade #12 for #16 & #28.

Depends on who is available at 12 and 16 for me. I'd rather get a pick in the 16-19 range and a first rounder that has some potential upside such as the 2016 Milwaukee first rounder unprotected, one of the BKN picks that Boston owns, or the 2016 Wiz pick unprotected.
 
Heck no. Hayward is a top 5 SF. He's shown that he can score, rebound, and pass, plus he's only 24! I'm not trading him just for Russell. Maybe someone that is more likely to be really, really, good.
Hayward will probably be a coaches pick for the allstar game this year. Hell!! With gobert we could have two in the allstar game this coming year with Gobert joining. And Exum and Hood in the future stars game. There are only 3-4 guys in the entire league that put up the numbers Hayward puts up. The only reason u trade a player like Hayward is if u don't think u can resign him like with D-Will. If Hayward makes a similar improvement like he made last year he will be a star. His next progression is to be more aggressive in demanding the ball because he does tend to disappear for long stretches of a game. If the jazz were to trade Hayward for Russ wouldn't that signal the start of yet another rebuild, which means Exum is gone. Hell, let's get rid of everyone and start a full on rebuild. No one is denying tat Russ is good but damn?! So is Hayward.
 
It's interesting in the past week or so we have had a slew of 6'5" 6'6" 2 guards pass through for workouts. They have had decent final year college stats. Could one of these guys be a second round pick or the entire second round picks?

Lol. Leave it to homy to talk about prospects in the draft thread that will most likely play in the Dleague at some point in their careers.
 
So Cameron Payne is really getting looks as high as 4 and 6? I like him but really? If he goes before we pick that'd be great... Keep pushing those other guys down to us.

Seems legit. The Knicks would be looking to move down a few spots and pick him and another asset up though, 4 is too high.
 
It's a good thing I'm not a scout, I fall in love with a lot of players. Just saw the Booker's workout video. His shot is pretty sweet and he looked a lot more athletic than I thought he was. He could duplicate Hood in our system, but you can never have enough good shooters.
 
It's a good thing I'm not a scout, I fall in love with a lot of players. Just saw the Booker's workout video. His shot is pretty sweet and he looked a lot more athletic than I thought he was. He could duplicate Hood in our system, but you can never have enough good shooters.

My new draft plan is to not watch one more video... Soon as jazz draft I watch strengths video and workout video and convince myself we got the best player in the draft. I was impressed with bookers video as well.
 
Hayward will probably be a coaches pick for the allstar game this year. Hell!! With gobert we could have two in the allstar game this coming year with Gobert joining. And Exum and Hood in the future stars game. There are only 3-4 guys in the entire league that put up the numbers Hayward puts up. The only reason u trade a player like Hayward is if u don't think u can resign him like with D-Will. If Hayward makes a similar improvement like he made last year he will be a star. His next progression is to be more aggressive in demanding the ball because he does tend to disappear for long stretches of a game. If the jazz were to trade Hayward for Russ wouldn't that signal the start of yet another rebuild, which means Exum is gone. Hell, let's get rid of everyone and start a full on rebuild. No one is denying tat Russ is good but damn?! So is Hayward.

I agree. I view hayward in the steve nash vein. Will continue to improve into his late twenties. Dude is cerebral.
 
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