HadAnEffectHere
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Yeah, it's also not really.... Good for Kon either? Reed is on track to be a horrific bust, lol.
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Yeah, it's also not really.... Good for Kon either? Reed is on track to be a horrific bust, lol.
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I get the idea of more room for improvement in a young player, but DL went with youth in Azubuike (sp?) over an "older" Desmond Bane. I will probably remember that for at least 10 more years. Dumba$$!
I can't think of a way that this won't come off like a jerk, but did you really think you needed to explain that to me?
I must come off as an idiot, smh.
Yeah there is a balance. I posted some data in the 2024 draft thread, but if I'm remembering correctly 21-22 year olds are much less likely to be above average players than 19-20 year olds.
If I'm being honest, the answer for me is yes and it's a flaw in how I see things. One of the things I've personally been annoyed/disappointed with is how DX/Givony has basically become a mouth piece for players and agents. I miss the old days ya know? Givony was hyping him up like crazy, but even though he was underwhelming in relation to those factors he's still a damn good prospect.
You just said, "I would hear things like, 'he won't even be 19 on draft day' like it was a huge deal." So I elaborated on why it's a huge deal. Didn't mean to offend you. Forget I mentioned it.
I know you weren't trying to be mean, and I'm not trying to be either. It's all good.
What I meant was that when I heard things like that, it felt like it was super unique for a player to be under 19 on draft day, like it didn't happen very often.
That's just how Ferg is. I remember the weekly "Hey Cody Williams can dribble, pass, and shoot" post in the draft thread last year. Which is ironic because Cody definitely can not dribble.
Yeah, guys who were 18 entering the draft used to be pretty rare and exceptional, especially in the one-and-done era--like someone who jumped up a class. This year does seem to have an unusually high number.
Well, he can dribble. That was one of his appeals. It's just that he apparently can't handle much pressure from good NBA-level defenders.
Then he can't dribble.....
Isaiah Evans is #2 in Pelton's "pure stats model" but he said he definitely does not endorse that.
They did a 7:00 portion on Bennett Stirtz draft stock. That's insane. I was on him before anyone else.
Pelton said Stirtz is in his top 30 model despite only having one year of data and Givony said a lot of teams are asking about him.
HadAnEffectHere
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1. Cooper Flagg: More athletic, better shooting Jimmy Butler.
2. Dylan Harper: Will be as good as Cade Cunningham if Harper becomes a good shooter.
3. Derik Queen: I don't know if he's physically gifted enough to be an NBA starter, but he's so skilled that he does have a lot of upside if he is.
4. Jeremiah Fears: Will be unstoppable going to the basket if he fixes his awful shooting form... We'll see. He's extremely small and that will cause lots of problem on defense and at the rim, but he may be able to make up for it.
5. Tre Johnson: These physical tools are just not good, his handle gets him nowhere, and he's an abomination on defense, but he's a ridiculously elite shooting prospect with some other skills on offense that could be built upon.
6. VJ Edgecombe: Super high BBIQ guy with a decent jumpshot and great athleticism. Way too small to defend wing players (limiting his upside on defense a ton) and his handle is so awful that he can't play on ball well (limiting his upside on offense a ton)
Not sure after 6 yet.
1. Cooper Flagg: More athletic, better shooting Jimmy Butler.
2. Dylan Harper: Will be as good as Cade Cunningham if Harper becomes a good shooter.
3. Derik Queen: I don't know if he's physically gifted enough to be an NBA starter, but he's so skilled that he does have a lot of upside if he is.
4. Jeremiah Fears: Will be unstoppable going to the basket if he fixes his awful shooting form... We'll see. He's extremely small and that will cause lots of problem on defense and at the rim, but he may be able to make up for it.
5. Tre Johnson: These physical tools are just not good, his handle gets him nowhere, and he's an abomination on defense, but he's a ridiculously elite shooting prospect with some other skills on offense that could be built upon.
6. VJ Edgecombe: Super high BBIQ guy with a decent jumpshot and great athleticism. Way too small to defend wing players (limiting his upside on defense a ton) and his handle is so awful that he can't play on ball well (limiting his upside on offense a ton)
Not sure after 6 yet.
Givony says Drake's head coach might be the leader for the Indiana or Iowa job. If he does take it, Stirtz probably transfers with him (assuming his draft stock doesnt blow up enough to leave to the NBA).
Crazy Stat:
Florida has 5 players who have a 10.0 BPM or higher. And they have a 6th at 9.6
All regular rotation players besides Handgloten, who is a regular rotation player who's been injured most of the season, but is healthy now.
Definitely the best overall team even if they dont have the star talent that Auburn/Duke have with Broome/Flagg.
Florida has 5 players who have a 10.0 BPM or higher. And they have a 6th at 9.6
All regular rotation players besides Handgloten, who is a regular rotation player who's been injured most of the season, but is healthy now.
Definitely the best overall team even if they dont have the star talent that Auburn/Duke have with Broome/Flagg.
To answer my own question on how unique this draft is with under 19 years olds, I went back through the past 10 drafts and found that they all had between 1-5 guys drafted younger than 19.
So, no, it's not incredibly unique for someone to get drafted younger than 19, but yes this year is an outlier with more guys that are than there has ever been. Although since there are some on the list who might go back to school, we'll see.
So, no, it's not incredibly unique for someone to get drafted younger than 19, but yes this year is an outlier with more guys that are than there has ever been. Although since there are some on the list who might go back to school, we'll see.
VJ's athleticism/strength is so massive for his size, I'm not too worried about his handle. He wont be a super creative player who breaks people down, but he's going to get where he needs to go.
Do you guys want to do a Mock Draft Exercise?