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PointGod_AlecBurks said:
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Your claim that he cant dribble is baseless though, hes not a 1 trick pony. he's plenty capable of grabbing a rebound and dribbling it up the floor.

His Turnovers went down this year, he has a positive Ast/To Ratio. Hes going to get paid a pittance and he'd be our best option defensively vs many matchups.

The Jazz were defending Kevin Durant with Mike Harris at the start of last season. IDK why anyone would complain about Aminu, what are the better low cost defensive options at SF ?
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Who cares. You can name 10-15 guys who are either out of the league or barely holding on with Aminu's skill set.

Who cares if he can play defense and is long. So is Ronnie Brewer. We can't bring on more guys who can't shoot. We have enough guys who are either unproven, inconsistent, our just flat out bad.

Trey - 33% from 3 last year
Exum - His biggest weakness according to reports
Alec - 35% last year
Hayward - 30% last year
Hood - 42%
Novak - 43%
We know Kanter is decent from mid range but not dependable yet. Favors.... certainly is not.
Gobert cannot. Jeremy Evans cannot consistently

With so many issues and question marks with outside shooting why do we want to bring in a Ronnie Brewer type player???
Awesome he is longer. Cool beans. Who cares. There are plenty of long and athletic players. Its not something we need. Especially for the fact if sign Hayward and Aminu we are taking away playing time for Hood.
And if you think he is going to back up Kanter at the 4. Not happening. We just traded for Novak for a reason. SHOOTING.

There is reason the Spurs dominate. They have shooters. These athletic long players who can't shoot are going away slowly. And teams are realizing they can't play major minutes come playoff time because you need floor spacing.
 
Twin Towers said:
You can name 10-15 guys who are either out of the league or barely holding on with Aminu's skill set.
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No you cant HAhaha, ********. Bruno Caboclo was one, but hes in the NBA now. i dare you to present that list of 10-15 players who can log minutes at SF/PF, please go for it.

Aminu is 6'10 hes longer than the average NBA PF, and a proficient rebounder whos logged heavy minutes at SF, plus he runs the floor very well and he was born in the 90's.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];864243 said:
I've resigned myself to becoming a broken-record...

We need perimeter defenders. I still want Marcus Smart: S&T Hayward, add Burke, get Smart. Then, sign Bazemore. Then, sign Aminu.

Exum/Smart/Neto
Smart/Burks/Bazemore
Hood/Bazemore/Aminu
Kanter/Aminu/Evans/Novak
Favors/Gobert

A three-guard rotation of Exum, Smart, and Burks could beat the hell outta people.
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I like that idea very much. However I would put Novak ahead of Evans. I like Jeremy and think he would be great in a running offense but Jazz need shooters on the second team. I might even include Evans with Hayward so he has a buddy in Boston.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
No you cant HAhaha, ********. Bruno Caboclo was one, but hes in the NBA now. i dare you to present that list of 10-15 players who can log minutes at SF/PF, please go for it.

Aminu is 6'10 hes longer than the average NBA PF, and a proficient rebounder whos logged heavy minutes at SF, plus he runs the floor very well and he was born in the 90's.
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Here is a list of players that HAVE or are currently playing the 3 and the 4. They will switch between positions depending on what the other team is doing. This is the same reasoning that every dumb GM will do. "They are long and athletic and young..........You can't teach that." Well the fact is that teaching guys how to shoot isn't so easy.
Look at the list of players who switch between the 3 and the 4. The majority of them have an outside shot. So it keeps them on the court. He hasn't improved on anything besides his FG%. Which is great that he became smarter, but his outside shot and free throws......Horrible. And have been either worse or the same. That is not a good sign for any young player to not improve over 4 years of being in the league and getting plenty of opportunities to do so. The Pelicans were just saving face because they traded Chris Paul away and were hoping to develop Aminu. He isn't developing at all.

1 - Andrei Kirilenko
2 - Gerald Wallace
3 - Luol Deng
4 - Lamar Odom
5 - Paul Pierce
6 - Anthony Bennett
7 - Shawn Marion
8 - Josh Smith
9 - Draymond Green
10 - Wes Johnson
12 - Tayshaun Prince
13 - Michael Beasley
14 - Shane Battier
15 - Rashard Lewis
16 - Khris Middleton
17 - Metta World Peace
18 - Kevin Durant
19 - Tobias Harris
20 - Aaron Gordon
21 - Thaddeus Young
22 - Markieff Morris
23 - Marcus Morris
24 - Kawhi Leonard
25 - Boris Diaw
26 - Derrick Williams
27 - Marvin Williams
28 - Ryan Anderson
29 - NOVAK
This list is much longer if you keep going back to retired players. They are everywhere. But the successful ones can shoot.

Here is a list of players who are no longer in the league or barely holding on...... who could play the 3 and the 4 but could not shoot. Proto typical Aminu players.

1 - Darius Miles (He was a bust even before his injury)
2 - Rodney White
3 - Jared Jeffries (Bust for sure. He could play some defense here and there. But his lack of shot kept him off the court)
4 - Travis Outlaw
5 - Hakim Warrick
7 - Dominic McGuire
8 - Joe Alexander (BUST)
9 - Earl Clark (BUST)
10 - James Johnson (BUST)
11 - Derrick Williams (BUST)
12 - Royce White (More of a mental problem then a game issue. But he did not have an outside shot and could play 3 or 4).

This is only off the top of my head. These guys are very hard to keep on the floor. Now if Aminu had just a decent mid range shot and dependable. He could be a great back up for some team. For us??? No it doesn't fit because we need more shooting. Right now we are bad with shooting but need to have our young guys develop. Continue to let Burks, Burke, Exum improve the outside shot. Maybe Hayward too. But we don't need Aminu as this next year is about development. And he would only hinder our current players who have much brighter futures then Aminu.

You said list 10-15 who could play the 3 and the 4. I listed over 45 total and broke them up between what works and what does not.
I really hope Aminu develops a shot. He could become a very good role player. But I am tired of hearing about wingspans and athleticism when you can't even shoot a freaking basketball. Its the prototypical reason why players bust.
 
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Umm, Travis Outlaw averaged 17 MPG last season. He is far from "barely holding on". He might fall off soon, but that is just becasue of his age. He has been a rotation player for most of his career.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Umm, Travis Outlaw averaged 17 MPG last season. He is far from "barely holding on". He might fall off soon, but that is just becasue of his age. He has been a rotation player for most of his career.
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The point is he cannot stay on the court because his outside shot isn't falling. He had 1 good year from the outside.

And lets just Take Outlaw off the list. Doesn't change the fact that there are always long athletic players who can't shoot who have a hard time staying on teams or in rotations because the defense can sag.
 
Twin Towers said:
The point is he cannot stay on the court because his outside shot isn't falling. He had 1 good year from the outside.

And lets just Take Outlaw off the list. Doesn't change the fact that there are always long athletic players who can't shoot who have a hard time staying on teams or in rotations because the defense can sag.
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I'm guessing you really didn't want the Jazz to draft Aaron Gordon then?
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];864399 said:
I'd take an '07 Ronnie Brewer right now (off the bench).
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Well he could be had for a box of used rubbers and a sandwich so let's do this.
 
By the way, what if Aaron Gordon is less rich-man's Scottie Pippen and more rich-man's Al-Farouq Aminu?

That would be funny.
 
Why the **** do people care one way or the other about signing Aminu? It doesn't ****ing matter. The Jazz suck, they'll suck next year, and Aminu is just some cheap player that may or may not play on the team. If he sucks, it doesn't matter.
 
LazyD said:
Why the **** do people care one way or the other about signing Aminu? It doesn't ****ing matter. The Jazz suck, they'll suck next year, and Aminu is just some cheap player that may or may not play on the team. If he sucks, it doesn't matter.
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Doublea said:
I'm guessing you really didn't want the Jazz to draft Aaron Gordon then?
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Initially no I did not. but the more I learned about him......the more I like. He seems like a player that will always want to get better. And the kid is 18 years old. And his release is fine. Just needs some fine tuning.
If Aminu was 18 years old with his skill set??? I wouldn't mind.
But if Aaron Gordon was 23 turning 24 in September and had been in the league for 4 years and never improved his shot........ No I would not want him either. 4 years is plenty of time to have some improvement on an outside shot.
 
LazyD said:
Why the **** do people care one way or the other about signing Aminu? It doesn't ****ing matter. The Jazz suck, they'll suck next year, and Aminu is just some cheap player that may or may not play on the team. If he sucks, it doesn't matter.
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Because he takes away minutes from players that need to develop. Whether he is good, mediocre/same, or sucks. It takes away time from Kanter, Favors, Gobert, Hood.
 
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