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George Hill coming to Utah

Did we ever find out what all the particulars of the Hill trade are supposed to be? I saw the Hawks were busy scooping Dwight Howard's numb nuttery, and it renewed my interest in what the final pieces were going to be.

As said already it will be announced on the 7th. But I was looking back through old tweets and I found one from Adrian Wojnarowski that was interesting. He openly said "other pieces involved". Hmmm... I hope those pieces are coming our way.
 
As said already it will be announced on the 7th. But I was looking back through old tweets and I found one from Adrian Wojnarowski that was interesting. He openly said "other pieces involved". Hmmm... I hope those pieces are coming our way.

They would likely be coming from Indiana rather than Atlanta. Atlanta already gave up enough. . .
 
I don't get the "Exum is mentally weak argument". In fact, it is quite dumb. Exum practiced everyday. Exum was aggressive in practice. And he failed.

So, because he knows he isn't very good at a certain skill, he is mentally weak? Because he'd rather win than drive to the hoop and turn the ball over, he is mentally weak?

Bull crap.
 
I don't get the "Exum is mentally weak argument". In fact, it is quite dumb. Exum practiced everyday. Exum was aggressive in practice. And he failed.

So, because he knows he isn't very good at a certain skill, he is mentally weak? Because he'd rather win than drive to the hoop and turn the ball over, he is mentally weak?

Bull crap.

It's as valid as "he failed".

Haha
 
It's as valid as "he failed".

Haha

Failing and being mentally weak are two very different things. Maybe he didn't fail at all. Maybe due to the fact that he hasn't ever played against any decent competition for any amount of time his season was successful.

I have always said that his rookie year to pretend he wasn't playing. To pretend that he was some DL scrub and Exum was RS'ing. His defense was completely unexpected and the fact that he won the starting job was a huge success in my eyes. Exum was much more valuable as a rookie than I ever thought he would be.
 
Two of the biggest lies on Jazzfanz are that Exum is mentally weak and timid and that Favors plays with no Passion and Fire.
 
Two of the biggest lies on Jazzfanz are that Exum is mentally weak and timid and that Favors plays with no Passion and Fire.

I think we can't really say much about Exum, since he was an afterthought on offense and wasn't required to do much but Favors doesn't run the floor particularly well in transition and doesn't seem to like to play in the low post offensively. If this should be interpreted as having "no Passion and Fire" I don't know, but surely doesn't look good.
 
It's going to be interesting to see if we can sign Hill. If not, it's not the end of the world. It would suck, but we've got four first-rounders in the next two years (granted they won't be lottery picks as the Jazz are going to be awesome and the OKC pick is protected and I doubt GS will magically fall apart).

We have more picks than we have roster spots.

Speculation, but perhaps DL didn't like any of the guys at 12 and he'd rather not have that potential roster spot filled the next few years by any of those available players in this year's draft....

Sure - in two years Joe Johnson and others could be gone and there will be openings that need filled, but we'll be in a solid position and if we're winning and are a playoff lock we will attract talent easier than if we're a mediocre team.

It's going to be interesting!
 
Two of the biggest lies on Jazzfanz are that Exum is mentally weak and timid and that Favors plays with no Passion and Fire.
A couple of years ago I paid close attention to Favors for an entire game that I attended. IMO his body language did show a lack of passion and confidence. I did a similar thing at a game last year. I was impressed by how far he has come in that respect. I'd still like to see him take another step. If he had Karl Malone like passion and confidence I believe he could become capable of producing Karl Malone type results.
 
The only report came out was taht Atlanta was looking to move up in the draft with both picks. They didnt watn to get rid of the picks.
The report I saw said they were trying to free up cap room; hence the desire to get future assets instead of draft picks. But it was moot since it then came out Horford doesn't like Howard.
 
Don't look at the sample size, but George Hill posted +9.5 on/off and +25+/- numbers in the playoffs... he also kept Lowry to under 40% shooting in every single game in the playoffs(3/13, 4/13, 8/21, 4/12, 3/11, 4/14, 5/14).

Shot 56% from the field and 48% from 3.

^This
 
A couple of years ago I paid close attention to Favors for an entire game that I attended. IMO his body language did show a lack of passion and confidence. I did a similar thing at a game last year. I was impressed by how far he has come in that respect. I'd still like to see him take another step. If he had Karl Malone like passion and confidence I believe he could become capable of producing Karl Malone type results.

Sir, as a fan of the game and someone who is more than likely watching the game from home, how do you measure passion and confidence?
 
Sir, as a fan of the game and someone who is more than likely watching the game from home, how do you measure passion and confidence?

You look at his pants. If you can see his wiener through his shorts he has passion and confidence.
 
My post said I attended the games so what do you mean by "from home," and I'm talking about body language.

Well, I think you're one of the smarter dudes on the board so I'm guessing you'd observe Favors in multiple games and most of those would be from home. And since passion and confidence are usually mental attributes, how do you measure those things from body language?
 
Well, I think you're one of the smarter dudes on the board so I'm guessing you'd observe Favors in multiple games and most of those would be from home. And since passion and confidence are usually mental attributes, how do you measure those things from body language?
I didn't claim to have done some sort of comprehensive study. I believe that you probably know the difference between confident behavior and tentative behavior (for example), but anything can be misinterpreted. Maybe Favors has always been an ultra-confident ultra-passionate guy and I have simply misinterpreted it.
 
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