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George Karl is not super impressed with our roster moves

Favors is our most consistent player. He rarely plays an awful game.

Jefferson doesn't play defense and Millsap received 9.5 million per year (not a bad contract but we now have Favors, Hayward & Burks signed to new contracts which I much prefer).

George Karl is a moron.
 
it was the right decision to clear them both out. Gave us an idea of what we had with our young talent.

Us being social media. The Jazz and me knew what we had. Fans need to be shown failure to come to terms with it.

AllthatAmar is rolling for a grave to fall into.
 
I have always loved millsap, but jefferson just was not a good fit with any of the guys we had. Millsap on this team with Quin coaching would be awesome though.


Booker will probably be awesome, but it is a huge leap to say he will be better than sap. And for those saying that sap showed no effort in his last year here, stfu. His stats didn't really change, and he always played hard.
 
Agreed, but this is in retrospect. I think at this point keeping one of them Jefferson or Millsap would have been the right move, especially Millsap. Kanter could have come off the bench or been traded. But I think most of thought Kanter could develop faster into a better player than what has happened so far. But maybe he develops this season....

Had they done that we would have only drafted Stauskas/McDermott/Payton/Vonleh/Saric...

So they had a plan to tank. Ty Corbin helped a lot. But competition for the last place was too intense.
 
He should have spent every game watching them in Utah. There is a reason they were not all stars here.

When Phil Jackson complains about our roster moves, then I'll pay attention.
 
DL is conservative? Now I'm laughing.
*Insert insult*

DL has yet to make a trade that involved outgoing or incoming players who could reasonably be considered longterm pieces. The same can be said for his free agent signings. He took over a playoff team with two fringe all-stars and a handful of fairly well-regarded young players, and has turned it into one of the worst teams in the league with three young players who now look like complementary pieces making more money than James Harden and Dwight Howard. His most notable moves are trading Muhammad and Dieng for Burke and Gobert (lateral), turning cap space into two late first round picks and signing Trevor Booker. He's made exactly zero notable moves in-season. The team is worse, the value of all team assets is arguably worse as well.

I'm all for giving DL more time. He may have some longterm plan, where he actually turns complementary pieces and picks into better players and builds a decent team. He hasn't done that yet.
 
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Pretty much agree - DL hasn't even made a medium impact move a la KOC his first couple of years when he pulled off the Eisley for Marshall S&T and signing Matt Harpring.
 
In every industry there's a period of wiping the decks. Lindsey was hired to observe for one year, more-or-less, and then begin his rebuild. He wiped the decks, and I understand why he did what he did. He's not done, though, so nobody should go all fanboy.... just like nobody should be hatin'.
 
The mistake was losing them for nothing, not moving on from them.

Given the size of his contract, I'm not that unhappy about getting a late-first for Jefferson (i.e. with the cap-space). But I'm absolutely certain we could have had a better haul for Millsap at some point in the post-DWill, water-treading era.
 
Given the size of his contract, I'm not that unhappy about getting a late-first for Jefferson (i.e. with the cap-space). But I'm absolutely certain we could have had a better haul for Millsap at some point in the post-DWill, water-treading era.
I'm convinced that right up until Lindsey won the battle of rebuild vs. retool, there was the Miller/KOC faction that wanted to re-sign Millsap and bring back DMC and probably Foye. Wasn't until the GS deal came about that the "tank" strategy was unveiled. I say this because a) reports indicated the Jazz were talking to Paul throughout free agency, b) he hadn't really been linked to other teams (nor had DMC or Foye) and c) Lindsey talked about a "value shopping" approach to free agency. Jazz likely expected some solid veterans to be available at a bargain price. Of course, the opposite happened.
 
I'm pretty sure the battle for the soul and future of the team was if they made the playoffs or not. If Millsap and Al wanted out, they sure did a great job making it happen in that last game they played in the uniform.
 
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