gregbroncs
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It's different because Karl is no longer a part of the franchise and does nothing to help the team he is demeaning.
"Hey Karl - you're lying." "He can't be counted on." etc. - The Official Following Greg Miller
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This really grabbed me too. How Larry wasn't convinced that Karl was worth everything the league would allow him to be paid is pretty ****ing heinous.
Maybe Karl has Greg's number, but Greg doesn't have Karl's number.
Grandpa Jazz
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Hate filled monologues just make me sick. You end up convincing nobody that your opinion has any validity Franklin. Why so angry?
*franklin
I'm glad you speak for the entire world. You would make a good Maller.
I wasn't trying to convince anyone of anything.
I'm slinging **** at a family I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. Mission accomplished.
But I'll go on just because it makes you sick and I care so much about your constant drama filled attempts to make yourself relevant. This shoul be about you.
Mission Accomplished
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I pretty sure Malone is close to the truth than the Jazz will let out. It isn't cool for them that Karl is trying to put their dirty laundry out for the public to view. All organizations try to keep a wrap on this stuff. So, of course they are going to fight back like this.
How so? The part where Karl was not present for ANY INSTANCE of the controversy, or the part where he still hasn't talked to Jerry about any of this?
Clearly, Malone is the best source for information on the topic.
InGameStrategy
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Noooo, because
(1) intuition would suggest that the Jazz wanted Sloan to stay and finish the season;
(2) Utah had always backed Sloan (even when he was part of the problem and/or didn't deserve it IMHO);
(3) Deron had proven that he had a temper (just asked the side of Hayward's head);
(4) Johnson, KOC, Gregg, Locke, and Sloan himself have gone out of their way to dispute Malone's claims;
(5) Malone has a history of running his mouth, even when the facts differ.
vslice02
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When two bulls fight, it is the grass that suffers most
This is a situation where nobody wins and the Utah Jazz as a whole will lose.
I think there's alot of truth to what Karl said, and I think there's some truth to what Greg said. In the past, most of "Karl being Karl" was Karl speaking off the top of his head and saying he would do things (that he often never followed through on) or how he felt about things (often being oversensitive and feeling disrespected) - not making up stories. Also, don't forget Karl and Mark McKown are good friends.
No question I think Karl was out of place with what he said, but look at the reports that came out immediately after Jerry's resignation from Adrian Wojohowski, Sam Smith and Brian T. Smith - where there's smoke there's fire. Karl should have just let the fire burn out (it nearly was) but now it's back and unfortunately Greg Miller decided to dump gasoline on it with his sophomoric blog entry.
Larry H. Miller, and bless that man for all he did, but the one fault he did posess was being too emotional and petty - from walking down to the Jazz bench in the middle of a playoff game and yelling at Jerry to bench Karl Malone, from planning on firing Frank Layden and becoming the head coach himself (mercifully Dave Checketts calmed him down on that one), to his annual breakup and tabloid fights with Karl in the press.
This is one instance where Greg needed to take a different approach from his father and give a very brief and professional statement that Karl's words were not factual, and publically never address them again. Instead Greg took the over-defensive, immature, mud-slinging approach and now the Jazz are back in the national spotlight for all the wrong reasons.
This is a situation where nobody wins and the Utah Jazz as a whole will lose.
I think there's alot of truth to what Karl said, and I think there's some truth to what Greg said. In the past, most of "Karl being Karl" was Karl speaking off the top of his head and saying he would do things (that he often never followed through on) or how he felt about things (often being oversensitive and feeling disrespected) - not making up stories. Also, don't forget Karl and Mark McKown are good friends.
No question I think Karl was out of place with what he said, but look at the reports that came out immediately after Jerry's resignation from Adrian Wojohowski, Sam Smith and Brian T. Smith - where there's smoke there's fire. Karl should have just let the fire burn out (it nearly was) but now it's back and unfortunately Greg Miller decided to dump gasoline on it with his sophomoric blog entry.
Larry H. Miller, and bless that man for all he did, but the one fault he did posess was being too emotional and petty - from walking down to the Jazz bench in the middle of a playoff game and yelling at Jerry to bench Karl Malone, from planning on firing Frank Layden and becoming the head coach himself (mercifully Dave Checketts calmed him down on that one), to his annual breakup and tabloid fights with Karl in the press.
This is one instance where Greg needed to take a different approach from his father and give a very brief and professional statement that Karl's words were not factual, and publically never address them again. Instead Greg took the over-defensive, immature, mud-slinging approach and now the Jazz are back in the national spotlight for all the wrong reasons.
Hold it, hold it, hold it....
Larry was not a tightwad with Karl, although that is the popular opinion...not true.
In the late 80's, Karl started to demand a million dollars a year, which at the time was kind of rare. Larry gave it to him. Then Karl started spouting off that he wanted to be taken care of long term and he wondered why the Jazz had no come to him and offered it to him. (Like a crazy women, he thought they should have just known that's what he wanted)
Ok, so Larry got together with Karl and they hammered out a long term deal. Larry even threw in a car dealership to sweeten the offer, because there were league rules that made the deal capped at a certain amount.
Karl got as much, even more than the league allowed.
And when he kept wanting extensions to that deal, there was only so much allowed that Larry could pay him.
If Karl would have played out his contract and become a free agent, he could have made more, but he always wanted security.
As time went on, league rules changed and players started making more. But Karl was locked into a long term deal that very quickly became obsolete.
Same thing happened to Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan.
After the lockout and the new rules, Karl got the max deal that was allowed at the time.
Larry was not a tightwad with Karl. But many fans still want to believe that.
Mission Accomplished
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Because despite what we might think Malone has to still have ties. Yet, he doesn't have the same fears that he is close enough for the Jazz to burn him back. Look at the heat he is taking are you kiddin' where their is smoke there is fire.
But even Sloan has come out and said that Karl is wrong.
Now Greg, just for a second, think about what the Utah Jazz would be without Karl Malone....
Shaggy
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now now Revolution, just for a second, think about where the Utah Jazz would be with out The Miller Family....
The part I bolded is 100%. The rest is an embarassment to the rest of us.
You're really trying to convince us that you are better than Karl Malone huh.