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Hill and Hayward: The Package Deal

We can't let an asset like Hill go especially when we don't have any cap space. We also have some players who are going to get extensions coming up.


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fishonjazz said:
Plus the warriors got lucky to sign curry for so cheap. And got lucky draymond turned out so good. (iirc he was a late late pick)
And fortunate that klay ended up so good.

If people are only satisfied with championships then it's unlikely that they will ever be satisfied.

Sounds like there are quite a few people who think that if you are winning over 50 games and getting homecourt in the playoffs and advancing but not winning championships then we should trade everyone for draft picks and start over.

No thanks
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I think our team could jump to 60 wins if we kept it together. I think we could push GS next year if we actually have a healthy roster and our young players keep developing.

We still have not seen a healthy Gobert in the playoffs our best player. He is going to be a beast next year in the playoffs when healthy.

At that point we might not win it all but we are at least in the conversation and have a chance if things go our way. Durant has had plenty of injuries and could miss playoffs. Curry has a slew of injury concerns as well. Durant also might leave after this season as a FA as well. We could compete with a GS without Durant next season.
 
fishonjazz said:
I have yet to hear your plan and the players you would get.
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That's because there isn't a plan realistic enough to strongly posit.

Sorry, everyone, the Jazz don't magically get better by letting go of one of their best players while being well above the cap. That is simply losing an asset. As in... LOSING an asset.
 
SCS said:
The post right before you posted this I mentioned names.
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A. Those situations aren't our situation. They also aren't current.
B. How are any of those situations analogous to letting Hill (one of a team's best players) walk for NOTHING?
 
Is George Hill really the 3rd "star" next to Hayward and Gobert to go to the next level?
So far with Hill the Jazz gets to beat good teams but is he enough to win a series vs the Warriors or the Spurs?
Too bad we really couldn't gauge this properly as he was not able to play in games 2,3 and 4.
 
fishonjazz said:
Rudy gobert, Gordon hayward, Derrick favors, george hill, Alec burks.

Oh and iirc we beat them when they had Blake Griffin playing and gobert was out.
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And they beat us twice when Gobert was out and Griffin in. There is no way in the hell we could get past them with Griffin healthy, after that weak 6th game performance.
 
NUMBERICA said:
That's because there isn't a plan realistic enough to strongly posit.

Sorry, everyone, the Jazz don't magically get better by letting go of one of their best players while being well above the cap. That is simply losing an asset. As in... LOSING an asset.
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You knew you could easily lose this asset when trading your 12th pick for him. He was a quick solution to put Utah in the playoffs this exact year. I dont think they imagined to build the team around him.
 
Hill is just isnt worth more than 15m p/year and 3 year contract at most. I mean who would pay a 35 year old Hill, 20 m per year? He is not freaking CP3...
 
sepanol said:
And they beat us twice when Gobert was out and Griffin in. There is no way in the hell we could get past them with Griffin healthy, after that weak 6th game performance.
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When we are healthy there is no way in hell they could beat us in a 7 game series.
 
SCS said:
The post right before you posted this I mentioned names.
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Oh ok. That's all it takes to get guys huh? Just mention mention names?

I would get lebron, steph, kahwi, and AD.

That was easy. Now we win all the championships!
 
sepanol said:
Hill is just isnt worth more than 15m p/year and 3 year contract at most. I mean who would pay a 35 year old Hill, 20 m per year? He is not freaking CP3...
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I'd pay 17/18 but the 20+ he wants is too much for his talent level. I agree.
 
More than half of this board is going to be so mad and shocked when Hill gets $25 million+ per year and the rest of us will have been paying attention before that.
 
Let me just ask this:

Considering the topic of this thread, would any of you risk losing Hayward because you just arbitrarily want to pay ~$5-$10 million less per year to George Hill?
 
the main priority of this offseason has to be retaining Hayward, full stop. If that means signing Hill to a ******** contract, unfortunately that's what we'll have to do.

It would be awesome if DL could convince the Pels GM that George Hill would be the better fit in NOLA, and Jrue the better fit here, and have both teams engage in a sign-and-trade. Not sure how possible that is, but that's what would make me most happy.
 
"Utah Jazz forward Gordon Hayward said Tuesday he hasn’t thought about whether he will opt out of his contract to become an unrestricted free agent and will take some time off to enjoy time with his family before dealing with the “next chapter.” “It’s hard to think about right now, just because of the season we’ve had and everything we’ve gone through,” he said at his end-of-season availability. “Today it still feels like you’re looking toward the next game, looking toward the next opponent. That’s obviously over. But it’s hard to shut that off right away.” 1 day ago – via ESPN"

https://hoopshype.com/team/utah-jazz

Hayward would leave a lot of money on the table if he doesn't opt out but it would be both amazing and shocking.
 
I'm not convinced that we have to sign Hill for Hayward to stay. After all, there is no place else Gordon would end up where Hill goes with him. I think Hill is playing that card a lot stronger than Gordon. I am sure Gordon would like to have George back but more than that he wants to see we are serious about winning. If we add another piece to the puzzle and it isn't George I think Gordon will be fine with that.
 
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