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There were just too many games last year where Hood gave The Jazz absolutely nothing.

As of now The Jazz just have no one that you can count on to get you a tough basket at the end of a close game with the exception of Johnson - but how many times can you go to that 38 year old well?
 
Hood should be working on his ballhandling all summer long if he wants to take that next step sooner rather than later. Being able to attack off the bounce just opens so many possibilites for a 3-pt shooter, it not only gives you a whole new set of tools and ways to score and become a threat -which also helps with consistency as you can be effective in a wider range of situations-, but also makes your life so much easier when the defender has to respect your ability to drive as well as your outside shot.

ISOs, pnr, hand-offs... as a wing you jut have to be able to put the ball on the floor and attack the paint, then you can work on your ability to draw fouls, finish around the rim, your floaters, drive and kicks, etc. But the first thing is just being able to go past your defender and put some pressure inside.
 
Difference tween Hood an Coward is Hood don't gain no weight. Dude needs to hit the gym hard. Hayward put on 20 lbs solid an probably grew to what has Hood gaint physically? Nothin.
 
The biggest difference between Hood and Hayward is that Hayward could draw fouls. Hood needs to learn to get to the line. But Hood is a better shooter. If Hood is off there isn't much more he can do. Hayward could have an off night and get to the line. Both can set up other players although Hayward was a little better at that but Hood hasn't had the opportunity. Hood when healthy has shown he can get a good shot in the paint when he needs to.

Two seasons ago most people on this board preferred Hood taking the last shot over Hayward. A lot also preferred Burks to Hayward in end game situations.
 
The biggest difference between Hood and Hayward is that Hayward could draw fouls. Hood needs to learn to get to the line. But Hood is a better shooter. If Hood is off there isn't much more he can do. Hayward could have an off night and get to the line. Both can set up other players although Hayward was a little better at that but Hood hasn't had the opportunity. Hood when healthy has shown he can get a good shot in the paint when he needs to.

Two seasons ago most people on this board preferred Hood taking the last shot over Hayward. A lot also preferred Burks to Hayward in end game situations.

Hence the reason Hood (an Hayward needed) needs to put on weight. Helps driving get to the bucket or stripe. Hood always looked to gaunt an rawboned for a NBA player. Needs to drink raw eggs an hit the weight room.
 
The biggest difference between Hood and Hayward is that Hayward could draw fouls. Hood needs to learn to get to the line. But Hood is a better shooter. If Hood is off there isn't much more he can do. Hayward could have an off night and get to the line. Both can set up other players although Hayward was a little better at that but Hood hasn't had the opportunity. Hood when healthy has shown he can get a good shot in the paint when he needs to.

Two seasons ago most people on this board preferred Hood taking the last shot over Hayward. A lot also preferred Burks to Hayward in end game situations.

I'm not sure the stats back that up. Hood is a much better than Hayward on catch and shoots, but advance stats show Hayward is much better off the dribble (creating his own shot).

Hood really needs to work on being consistent, and scoring off the dribble. If he does that, he will take off.
 
I'm not sure the stats back that up. Hood is a much better than Hayward on catch and shoots, but advance stats show Hayward is much better off the dribble (creating his own shot).

Hood really needs to work on being consistent, and scoring off the dribble. If he does that, he will take off.
I agree that Hayward has been better at creating his own shot but that could just be because that wasnt Hood's role. But I was referring to just shooting and I think Hood is a better pure shooter which is what a catch and shot stat would show.
 
I agree that Hayward has been better at creating his own shot but that could just be because that wasnt Hood's role. But I was referring to just shooting and I think Hood is a better pure shooter which is what a catch and shot stat would show.

They are both within about a percentage point on catch and shoot, and Hayward took a lot more shots. To me, a good shooter can shoot on a catch and shoot or off the dribble from mid-range to three. Hayward is much better than Hood right now as a shooter IMO. I wouldn't say either is a great shooter, but both are very good. Hayward went from a mostly catch and shoot player to a much more dynamic player that could shoot off the pick and pop etc. No reason Hood can't do that. He just needs to work.

I like Hood a lot, and I hope he takes a leap. I think he deferred to much and I actually felt like Hayward and Hood didn't play well on the court together on offense. A large part of that is Snyder's offense. Hood will have the opportunity to take on a much more important role this year. I hope he steps up. The thing I loved about Hayward, is you could see just by looking at him how much he worked on his game each year. Hopefully that rubbed off on Hood et al.
 
They are both within about a percentage point on catch and shoot, and Hayward took a lot more shots. To me, a good shooter can shoot on a catch and shoot or off the dribble from mid-range to three. Hayward is much better than Hood right now as a shooter IMO. I wouldn't say either is a great shooter, but both are very good. Hayward went from a mostly catch and shoot player to a much more dynamic player that could shoot off the pick and pop etc. No reason Hood can't do that. He just needs to work.

I like Hood a lot, and I hope he takes a leap. I think he deferred to much and I actually felt like Hayward and Hood didn't play well on the court together on offense. A large part of that is Snyder's offense. Hood will have the opportunity to take on a much more important role this year. I hope he steps up. The thing I loved about Hayward, is you could see just by looking at him how much he worked on his game each year. Hopefully that rubbed off on Hood et al.

The knee injury derailed him a lot last season. Statistically he struggled but I still believe him to be a better shooter. I dont think creating your own shot is a factor in being a good shooter. But I get your point, we shall see how he does in general with a much larger role. Hayward's efficiency struggled a lot his first year as the first option on offense. I think Hood can be better than that season for Hayward but not as nearly as good as Hayward was last season.
 
NAOS and I have similar takes often, and I'm going to swing off his a bit here: I think he could make a leap next year. Between the skill set he's already had, getting benched for Ingles, and now the deck being cleared and NEEDING him to shoulder more weight, I think we're going to see it come together.

I also think the Jazz are in the midst of altering and accelerating Gobert's development plan. Considering he will have entire offseason to polish and develop both his game and body in, the GIANT chip on his shoulder, and our needing him to carry a larger load on that shoulder, I think we'll see yet another leap from him. Adding a quick flash-to-the-post hook when he has a clear mismatch and having Rubio will probably add 5 PPG to his average.

Uhh huh, Jazz have been holding Gobert's development back. They didn't want to develop him as fast as possible before Haywood left.
 
For me, the biggest difference between the two is that Hayward grew into a guy that could go to the foul line so much better than when he first came into the league. Back in the day, you'd check Hayward's stat line for any given game and if he shot 3-13, he'd have 6 to 8 points and be a relative non-factor. He grew into a guy that might shoot 3-13 here and there but would still score 13+ points for the most part on those bad shooting nights thanks to the fact that he learned how to get to the line. Obviously, that had an even greater impact on his hot shooting games, turning 20-25 point nights into 30+ efforts. I guess the good news is that we didn't really see Gordon grow that aspect of his game until he was called upon to play more minutes and have a bigger role within the offense. I've seen Hood flash the ability to get into the paint for midrange jumpers when his shot isn't falling. Now that he is undoubtedly going to be a bigger piece of our offense, I don't see why he can't learn to draw those fouls in the same manner Hayward did. That part of his game is there for him to grow if he has the desire to work at it as much as Hayward did.
 
Uhh huh, Jazz have been holding Gobert's development back. They didn't want to develop him as fast as possible before Haywood left.

When you have a guy like Hayward, it's kinda easy to rely on him and neglect some of your other guys offensively. I think if you combine the loss of Gordon with the fact that for the first time in Gobert's career, Utah has an actual ball-distributing PG that creates a lot more drive-and-dish opportunities for your post players, you could see a jump in Rudy's offensive output and it wouldn't be because Utah was simply holding Gobert's development back...
 
Uhh huh, Jazz have been holding Gobert's development back. They didn't want to develop him as fast as possible before Haywood left.

Lindsey has been very clear and very public that his development plan is very structured around incrementalism and being an elite garbageman. They have been developing him for a role, and the role will now be different.

Sorry.
 
The biggest difference between Hood and Hayward is that Hayward could draw fouls. Hood needs to learn to get to the line. But Hood is a better shooter. If Hood is off there isn't much more he can do. Hayward could have an off night and get to the line. Both can set up other players although Hayward was a little better at that but Hood hasn't had the opportunity. Hood when healthy has shown he can get a good shot in the paint when he needs to.

Two seasons ago most people on this board preferred Hood taking the last shot over Hayward. A lot also preferred Burks to Hayward in end game situations.

Nah, the difference between them is Hayward still impacts the game if he's off. Great passer, great defender.


When Hood is off he contributes nothing. He *needs* to be a better playmaker in the p&r
 
Aside: Dennis Lindsey has seriously saved this ****ing franchise with his late first round picks.

Gobert, Rodney, and now even Mitchell are obvious pieces to our core. Where would we be without them?
 
When you have a guy like Hayward, it's kinda easy to rely on him and neglect some of your other guys offensively. I think if you combine the loss of Gordon with the fact that for the first time in Gobert's career, Utah has an actual ball-distributing PG that creates a lot more drive-and-dish opportunities for your post players, you could see a jump in Rudy's offensive output and it wouldn't be because Utah was simply holding Gobert's development back...

I agree full hearted with the bolded part. I disagree completely with your first sentence for two specific reasons:

1. Players don't develop faster with playing time. This is the greatest myth this fanbase protrudes.

2. Hayward took an awful lot of attention off of players. Gobert specifically benefited from a lot of rim running lobs, quick low post push shots and rebound layups just from Hayward being keyed in on so heavily. QS system and having the best three point shooter and plenty ammo in a solid 5 man rotation and possibly the best bench when healthy created plenty of offense for Rude. It's modern NBA; Rudy benefits from the 3 ball game.
 
A lot of people have questions about Hood. Would/should we trade him?

If he stays and excels, perfect. If he stays the same, we might just let him walk next summer if he gets too big a deal.

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