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How are we going to score without Al?

billyshelby said:
Your goal is to be entertained. I get it.
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Now one more thing billy.
You said in your previous post that against la we went to paul on the elbow for most of our offense along with transition ball.
So the whole point of this thread is to wonder if we can score with out al.

So: whether we give it paul on the elbow and get into transition or we pound it down low to kanter, we have in fact scored pretty well without al correct? (not trying to hate on al, i think he is a fine player by the way).
 
LunaticWolf said:
No. There is no circular logic. You are assuming that the wings are not cutting because Al has the ball.

They are not cutting because they are having an off night, or their man defender is getting on their nerves, or they are too pansy to get in the thick of things and set screens.

It has nothing to do with Al bro.



Well, we had our first practice since a long *** road trip for starters.

Which really has nothing to do with ball movement in set plays.



I'd rather win games.

I hear the Warriors in 06-07 were quite exciting. You should go be a fan there.
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So lunatic, the topic of the thread is whether or not we can score without al. Toronto and to lesser extent laker game proved it. Game, set, match.

Also i would prefer winning basketball and entertainment. (which is exactly what got in the last two games)
 
LunaticWolf said:
No. There is no circular logic. You are assuming that the wings are not cutting because Al has the ball.

They are not cutting because they are having an off night, or their man defender is getting on their nerves, or they are too pansy to get in the thick of things and set screens.

It has nothing to do with Al bro.



Well, we had our first practice since a long *** road trip for starters.

Which really has nothing to do with ball movement in set plays.



I'd rather win games.

I hear the Warriors in 06-07 were quite exciting. You should go be a fan there.
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Plus why would i be a fan of any team besides the jazz? I love the jazz, hell i have the jazz logo tatooed on my arm.
This is a discussion about whether the jazz can score without 1 player.... i tend to think that they can and they are better than a 1 man big al team..... I guess you dont think very highly of our team if you think we cant score without 1 guy. Thats too bad, i hope you can eventually get the confidence in the rest of the team that i have someday :)
 
LunaticWolf said:
He's changing the topic from ball movement to scoring, because he's realized he can't argue for it anymore. Its over.

GG WP
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Thread: How are we going to score without Al?

just copied and pasted the title of the thread for ya..... now how am changing the topic again?
 
LunaticWolf said:
We've been talking about ball movement for the past 10 pages.
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I guess you guys went off topic.

So back on topic...... do you think the jazz can score without AL?
Lol just kidding im done for the night and dont want to get into any more discussions...... besides i know what i saw (and liked) the last couple games and it didnt involve alot of big al.
 
fishonjazz said:
Now one more thing billy.
You said in your previous post that against la we went to paul on the elbow for most of our offense along with transition ball.
So the whole point of this thread is to wonder if we can score with out al.

So: whether we give it paul on the elbow and get into transition or we pound it down low to kanter, we have in fact scored pretty well without al correct? (not trying to hate on al, i think he is a fine player by the way).
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All I've been saying is that it doesn't matter whether Al or Sap or Favors or Kanter are the dominant big men on a given night. What matters is that we cut and move without the ball on the perimeter. You will see plenty of "fun" offense and be very "entertained" with Al scoring in the post if we keep doing that. Or Millsap. Or Kanter. Or Favors.
 
PKM said:
I've followed every post. WTF is the conclusion already?
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I think the conclusion is that the jazz can in fact score without big al, but that there is still no ball movement without big al.

Basically nothing changes without big al (according to billy) but we are more entertaining (according to me)
 
billyshelby said:
All I've been saying is that it doesn't matter whether Al or Sap or Favors or Kanter are the dominant big men on a given night. What matters is that we cut and move without the ball on the perimeter. You will see plenty of "fun" offense and be very "entertained" with Al scoring in the post if we keep doing that. Or Millsap. Or Kanter. Or Favors.
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Fair enough.
I hope it starts happening when al is scoring in the post, but im not holding my breath..... i just hope we stop going to the post as often in the future. Though i understand that it is a neccessary thing to have in the offense, i just hope it happens less. I like the millsap on the elbow play :)
 
Having Al is like having the big boat of a car that is mostly reliable and gets you to work, so you don't want to get rid of it, but it sucks gas like a tank and doesn't really warm up until right before you get to work. You don't want to get rid of it because it has always got you where you need to go, but the money you spend on gas is preventing you from doing the things you really want to do.

Then you see a more efficient car, smaller with good gas mileage. It runs differently, maybe isn't quite as powerful, but much more efficient. And expensive. Quite a change, but maybe, just maybe, in the long run you will save money with the new car if you are willing to get rid of the old model.

Just maybe.
 
LunaticWolf said:
No. There is no circular logic. You are assuming that the wings are not cutting because Al has the ball.

They are not cutting because they are having an off night, or their man defender is getting on their nerves, or they are too pansy to get in the thick of things and set screens.

It has nothing to do with Al bro.
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You are a maniac if you think it has NOTHING to do with Al.
 
PKM said:
I've followed every post. WTF is the conclusion already?
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People that don't like Al either don't breakdown the games like the smart guys or don't realize that if we trade him it'll be more of the same. This is true of all Trade-Al folks, and constitutes a complete argument for keeping him.
 
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