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How good or bad is Enes Kanter. Really.

TOP 3 NBA Drafted(2011) players in europe now;

1-Nikola Mirotic-real madrid/Chicago Bulls(will join in 2015)

age:20
Nationalty:Spain
euroleague stats;11.1 ppg,4.3 rpg.1.1 apg in 23mpg

2-Donatas Motiejunas-asseco prokom/Houston Rockets

age:21
Nationalty:Lithaunia
euroleague stats;14.3 ppg,8.5 rpg,1.1 apg in 33 mpg

broke a euroleague record on defensive rebounds in a single game last week(18 rebounds)


3-Bojan Bogdanovic-fenerbahce ulker/newjersey nets

age:22
Nationalty:Croatia
euroleague stats;10.6 ppg,2.5 rpg in 19mpg
 
dude,,eurocup sucks,,all the teams in eurocup sucks,,pleaseeeee

and JV is not doing good at all,,if he cant do much in eurocup,how he gonna success in nba? there is no way he gonna end up in nba with this eurotrashcup stats,,
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3ZtUvAhzuQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadOQ0rBcz8

Enes V M.gasol,Dirk,Chris Kaman,,highlights from euro-2011
 
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AKMVP said:
WRONG!

Aybars, please get your facts straight.

The EuroChallenge (called the FIBA Europe League in 2003–05, and EuroCup in 2005–08)[1] is the 3rd tier level transnational men's professional club basketball competition in Europe. It is organized and run by FIBA Europe. It is not to be confused with the EuroCup Challenge – the now defunct 4th tier level transnational men's professional club basketball competition in Europe, which was also organized and run by FIBA Europe, and played during the 2002–03 to 2006–07 seasons.

Each season's EuroChallenge winner gets promoted to the next season's 2nd tier level Eurocup competition.
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you should forget about JV and cheer for Donatas Motiejunas instead,:o
 
aybars said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3ZtUvAhzuQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadOQ0rBcz8

Enes V M.gasol,Dirk,Chris Kaman,,highlights from euro-2011
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JV had better games vs Spain or Germany. I do not even know why you posted those? Whats the point?
 
Trollolololol said:
Dude, i'm from France,i was at the game in Metz when Kanter score 37pts and grab 19rbs vs Jonas.
U mad?
In euroleague last year Jonas av 70% 2pts (thanks to Jasikevicius).
This year JV av 50% in weak competition like eurocup.
I see more progress in Mirotic game for exemple, clearly a better overall player.
Mirotic the best prospect this year in europe and almost number one offensive weapon of real madrid.
Bulls fans will enjoy this guy.
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Yeah in about 10 years. :)
 
aybars said:
dude,,eurocup sucks,,all the teams in eurocup sucks,,pleaseeeee

and JV is not doing good at all,,if he cant do much in eurocup,how he gonna success in nba? there is no way he gonna end up in nba with this eurotrashcup stats,,
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It is second best league in Europe, and teams like Rytas, Alba, Aswel, Benneton, Aris, Paok, Krka and Cibona used to play in Euroleague and are really good teams. And if you judge player after 4 games... whats there to add?
 
AKMVP said:
It is second best league in Europe, and teams like Rytas, Alba, Aswel, Benneton, Aris, Paok, Krka and Cibona used to play in Euroleague and are really good teams. And if you judge player after 4 games... whats there to add?
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rytas,alba,aswel,krka,,,lol,,nothing to add,,u have a good day sir.
 
dalamon said:
I enjoy how you only address like one sentence out of his post, whereas the rest which essentially proves that JV has been dogging it in Europe, you just ignore. Intellectual Dishonesty 101. And you wonder why everyone hates your guts.
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who hates me? you? LMAO... I could care less... I obviously ignored the part where Aybars points to 4 game stats and thinks it is somewhat important. Why don't you look at first 4 games Hayward played last season and say he was dogging? You look at whole season not first 4 games.
 
The thing I am not totally understanding is the talk of him being huge and strong. Every picture I see of him he actually fairly average. Are pictures distorting his gargantuanity or is his size being fluffed? This:https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/imag...es-kanter-500x335_crop_340x234.jpg?1301003159 does not equal this: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zCo2iJboXss/Tbcc-TV15dI/AAAAAAAADW8/ZrtIYMoypaM/s1600/Dwight+Howard.jpg in my mind but many jazzfanz make him seem like he is going to bully other centers.

Clue me in!
 
AKMVP said:
Well, you obviously are messing something up. First time Kosta entered he took it right to Kanter and scored layup plus 1 over him, then he blocked Kanter on the other side. Then he dunked couple times and scored another layup over Kanter. In that game Kanter was absolutely dominated by Kosta as I said he scored 9 pts vs Kanters 0pts. I think thats why Kanter did not even play in second half in that game as he looked useless vs Greece and Kosta in particular.
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i think you were high when you were watching that game
 
AKMVP said:
Ok, so you do not know who Hollinger or Aldridge is? Fine, we do not need to argue about that then. Funny thing is you say JV can't do anything without passes from his teammates... See this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DkzWofJkZk and rethink what you said ( he has great pump fake, jump hook and gets to the free throw line as well vs one of the top 10 NBA center Kaman ). And JV is three times better passer then Kanter, do not even start on that.

Thing about pick and roll - Kanter is not good at setting screens and not good at understanding spacing and rolling to the basket, thats why you do not see pick and roll with Kanter. He is low post, isolation type player who has no pick and roll game. Kind of like big Al, but worse.
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He goes out of 3 point range millions of times just for pick n rolls, but if the guard handling the ball doesn't attempt that, how in the world do you expect him to execute pick n roll. Should Kanter pick the ball, set the screen and roll after it himself? Lithuania had 3 very good guards, Kalneitis, Jasikevicius, Kaukenas but turkey had none. Kanter may have some difficulties in the beginning period but Valanciunas will have 3 times more trouble adjusting to nba, because his body isn't strong enough.

You may be a Valanciunas and AK homer, but you seriously have problems with being objective. Even though you don't like Kanter, you should still be able to give him credit for the good things he does, but you show him like a piece of crap. That's sad.
 
jope said:
The thing I am not totally understanding is the talk of him being huge and strong. Every picture I see of him he actually fairly average. Are pictures distorting his gargantuanity or is his size being fluffed? This:https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/imag...es-kanter-500x335_crop_340x234.jpg?1301003159 does not equal this: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zCo2iJboXss/Tbcc-TV15dI/AAAAAAAADW8/ZrtIYMoypaM/s1600/Dwight+Howard.jpg in my mind but many jazzfanz make him seem like he is going to bully other centers.

Clue me in!
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You did not know kanter is a mystical Turkish god??? Where the hell have you been bro?????
 
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jope said:
The thing I am not totally understanding is the talk of him being huge and strong. Every picture I see of him he actually fairly average. Are pictures distorting his gargantuanity or is his size being fluffed? This:https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/imag...es-kanter-500x335_crop_340x234.jpg?1301003159 does not equal this: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zCo2iJboXss/Tbcc-TV15dI/AAAAAAAADW8/ZrtIYMoypaM/s1600/Dwight+Howard.jpg in my mind but many jazzfanz make him seem like he is going to bully other centers.

Clue me in!
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Well he is 19, obviously it takes many years of lifting, and perhaps a few PHDs, to look like Howard. However, the potential is there. Most centers come in at 230 lbs, Kanter is already at 260 with 5% body fat so its a fairly easy conclusion to draw.
 
sepanol said:
Knight isn't irving, i hope you realize that
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And kanter is who? For the sake of our future I hope he pans out. JV was not the answer either for the idiot running around a jazz forum pimping him. I think knight was the best pg prospect for the next few years. He filled a need and I have a feeling we will be regretting the decision down the line. Not because kanter will blow, just that we will be looking for a pg for the next 5 years.
 
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