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How much should we be talking about Donovan?
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Knowledgeofmine
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People trying to compare Donovan and Dame last year and all summer are morons. If you couldn't see the difference in the two then you have no business talking hoops except with other like minded people like your self.. Dame is a scoring PG but he a pg still who could play make for others. Mitchell has always been more of a SG. His plays making for others is not even close to level of Dame. Donovan is more CJ then Dame
Knowledgeofmine
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Lame. Lmao. This might be the most pathetic post I ever read on any sportsboard, no disrespect but ok have to assume you never even played pee wee bball.
Stars Fan
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I could not agree more. Thank you one eye for being the voice of reason.
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Dame compared Donovan to himself.
framer
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A couple of things, sorry if these have been addressed:
1. Donovan is MUCH better on the defensive side of the ball right now than he was at any point outside of Summer League last year. He has flat out locked some good players up. I actually think he is now a better defender than Rubio, who isn't a slouch. It is possible that some of his development time has gone of that side of the ball. He is, right now, a better defender than Dame and McCollum will ever be. It matters, especially when they go head to head.
2. His development time has been almost non existent. We have only had a couple of home stands this year, and Donovan was injured through a good portion of the offseason. There has been little time to work on offensive wrinkles outside of actually playing games, mainly on the road. The entire team has looked discombobulated and has been slow to adjust to the defensive scheming being employed against them. Some of the massive upcoming homestand against poor teams will be a chance to get this worked out when getting those three hour practices on. I expect our defense to tighten up even more as well. Those sloppy lobs and passes out of bounds will look like Jazz basketball again.
1. Donovan is MUCH better on the defensive side of the ball right now than he was at any point outside of Summer League last year. He has flat out locked some good players up. I actually think he is now a better defender than Rubio, who isn't a slouch. It is possible that some of his development time has gone of that side of the ball. He is, right now, a better defender than Dame and McCollum will ever be. It matters, especially when they go head to head.
2. His development time has been almost non existent. We have only had a couple of home stands this year, and Donovan was injured through a good portion of the offseason. There has been little time to work on offensive wrinkles outside of actually playing games, mainly on the road. The entire team has looked discombobulated and has been slow to adjust to the defensive scheming being employed against them. Some of the massive upcoming homestand against poor teams will be a chance to get this worked out when getting those three hour practices on. I expect our defense to tighten up even more as well. Those sloppy lobs and passes out of bounds will look like Jazz basketball again.
elan_prodigy
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DM will be fine. Seriously.
Less than ideal offseason, still adjusting to being a STAR, ton of film on him now and teams are adjusting to how they play him. Personally, I think hes living a little outside of himself atm which is effecting his focus on court.
Dudes a STUD, never doubt. EVER.
Less than ideal offseason, still adjusting to being a STAR, ton of film on him now and teams are adjusting to how they play him. Personally, I think hes living a little outside of himself atm which is effecting his focus on court.
Dudes a STUD, never doubt. EVER.
DasJazz
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A lot of posters have also not taken into account that opposing teams are game planning specifically to dial in on DM and make his night as difficult as possible. He is having to adjust on the fly and learn to play at a high level with the added attention. Like a few have said already, once he figures that part out, the flood gates will open again.
I for one have no real issues with his game play given the tasks that he's been given by his coach and our still major lack of shooting or play makers/creators on the team.
I for one have no real issues with his game play given the tasks that he's been given by his coach and our still major lack of shooting or play makers/creators on the team.
Hitman
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That's because they don't. Collapsing on him when he drives and letting him shoot from 3 is a pretty generic plan.
Yet we have seen tweets and read articles about Dante staying after practice, putting in extra work on his finishing and shooting, and the results of this are starting to show on the court. The time and opportunity has been there if DM wants to work on his game, but he'd rather consult with adidas about his clown shoes.
framer
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What practices? Jazz are rarely in Utah. Even when they have a home game they head right back on the road. Dante SHOULD be working after games because up until lately he was getting little playing time.
But yes, I expect Dante to explode for the very reasons that I think have been holding Mitchell back along with getting some burn with a defined role in the offense. I also predict that we will be making fun of the people who were trying to trade Favors for a bag of chips as well.
Coach Ellis
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Don will be fine. Along with continuing to develope into the team’s best player, he’s the best hope we have to actually recruit somebody decent to come to Utah to try to win a championship with him. Also why I think it’s critical to keep Rudy and Jingles. Those guys are the kind of guys other players want to team up with.
It’s part of being a star and contracts he has signed. It’s a great thing for him and the Jazz. To imply Donovan doesn’t work hard is as ridiculous of an implication as I’ve read on here. But sure, you’re some dumbass fan on an Internet forum so you must know. Donovan is struggling shooting, and really that’s it. He’s fine, he will be fine, and shoe deals and **** like that will play a large roll in the future success of this franchise. You may not understand how big getting a signature shoe is, especially being basically the first player, and so quickly, to get one with the Jazz. Yes the basketball is the most important part of it all, he’s smart, he knows that. And he will be just fine.
There’s been plenty of reports of Donovan talking extensively with Quin after practices, and staying late as well. If you don’t think Donovan is committed to being great, you haven’t paid any attention to him, what the Jazz sY about him, and are just a fan who jumps off the bandwagon and says stupid **** at the first sign of struggle.
Knowledgeofmine
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Ive been telling posters here this since last year when he was ballin hard and people started talking like he was going be a top ten player next year. HE will be fine. HE is what 21 years old? ImAgine how good he will be when he is 27. I would set the line at age 25.5 he makes his first a'll star game.
Knowledgeofmine
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this dumb af. So just because there isn't an article you assume Donovan doesn't stay late or ta!k to the coach? You do know they could be telling press to push articles on Exum to increase his trade profile. I question not your bball is but your bball business commonsense.
Knowledgeofmine
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Reck the league? So you think he is a once and generation talent? Those only type who Reck the league. He is going be a solid player. Maybe a top 20 player but it's very very possible even if he maxes out his talent thAt he is in the 25 to 50 range because there is some very talented players in the league right now and there is a bunch of young players you could put in same category as mitchell. To me Mitchell needs another
Star by him. He be best off being the 2nd go to guy and a team like Utah needs to have 3 top 50 players with solid glue guys and bench guys. They could be a top 5 western conference team then. Denver Nuggets future is far brighter then Jazz but no reason jazz can't be a little behind them and please don't anyone try telling me Utah futures brighter then Nuggets cuz I'll stone cold start breaking it down player by player and talk about how Denver has nailed the draft recently and Utah other then Mitchell has had some bust.