How the Mormons Make Money
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NAOS
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how's this for those statistics:
I'm officially counted as a member of the church because I was born to a single mother who was once baptized.... despite the fact that I've never gone to church. Over 80% of my friends in college are also falsely counted.
Can you explain what worries you the most on the environmental front and how it relates to your issues with endless growth? The way I see it is the closer we get to scarcity the more we will do something about it, and you should theoretically be in favor of that.
Tsk, tsk. That's hardly complementary, Highness.
If I weren't such a cynical misanthrope, I might hope we could avoid killing ourselves off in the next 500 years.
https://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytim...on-voters-raise-romneys-advantage-in-arizona/
A article talking about the Mormon voting history in Las Vegas. The %s I used were completely made up to emphasize my point. Mormons as far as any article I have seen seem to vote in larger numbers than non members. Given the high percentage of Mormons in Utah (especially in southern Utah) it is no wonder that a large portion of the state legislature is Mormon.
NAOS
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Unfortunately, I don't have time for the exegesis right now. But, there are plenty of things to read related to how we may have already crossed certain thresholds (carbon emissions, species diversity, etc.), and that the pretty pruning we are doing (like fuel efficiency in cars... but also increasing the number of them globally by astronomical numbers) is essentially playing violin on the Titanic.
NAOS
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to your point, there is plenty of political apathy amongst non-Mormons in SLC. I can't say I blame them. Can you?
Oh no, I don't blame them at all. That was not even the point I was trying to make. Just my theory on why the state government is so heavily Mormon. I think even if non-mormons in SLC started turning up in droves at the poling stations they would have an uphill battle.
NAOS
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I'm pretty surprised that this comment didn't spark some kind of counter-attack.
I see no reason it should. Mormon society in general tends to be well organized. Pushing that onto the cities they have founded and built does not suprise me.
Plus, mormons have never been vague or disingenuous about their desire to build their own little mormon utopia. That was a big chunk of the reason they chugged across the plains to get here.
Just the most assertive.
And you know this how? Thanks for jumping to stupid conclusions.
NAOS
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^quotable^... since I'm sure you fully approve of 'assertiveness' as the sole necessary conditions for doing anything... in other words, just dominate.
Perfect, because I think that's still what we have on our hands today.
NAOS
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he said he didn't know I reported. I imagine he would have known I reported it if he received some kind of warning. This seemed like a fair conclusion.
My apologies if I was wrong. Truly.
General enough? You're a smart guy, NAOS. You know there are a lot of mormons, or others who are (at least situationally) sympathetic to them, on this board. Do comments of that nature surprise you?
Ultimately, the church pulls a lot of political weight in SLC. If they want something done, it usually gets done. Generally (and I'm almost positive you'll have some argument for this) the church strives to consider the interests of the community, along with their own.
I'm certainly not part of the "If you don't like it, leave" crowd (much too much of that attitude amongst members). To be honest, I'd love to see Utah's mormon population drop below 50%, for a couple of reasons. But as it stands, that isn't the case. So, mormon interests will continue to dominate.
NAOS
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I'm not really arguing against anything you just said...
just browse back through the pages of this thread... you'll see a general sentiment that they have a "right to rule," which goes right alongside the assumption that this is "obviously good for the economy." When I started pushing the issues a little bit, it's clear that these views are able to stand up to challenges, like whether the changes are democratic, or whether anybody has actually thought about a mall being good for an economy.
No, it doesn't surprise me that the majority of this board is sympathetic to the Mormon church. But, I am interested in how those sympathies take shape. As I'm sure you know, mainstream Mormonism has changed quite a bit in the past 30-40 years.