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I Booed the Hayward Pick and Now I am so Ashamed

I had no problem with the Hayward pick, but I'm not about to start calling it a great pick. From what I read, he played well against the Lakers, but until there is some consistency, I'm not going to call him a cornerstone just yet.
 
YB85 said:
I had no problem with the Hayward pick, but I'm not about to start calling it a great pick. From what I read, he played well against the Lakers, but until there is some consistency, I'm not going to call him a cornerstone just yet.
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It was a little more than he played well. He took over the game and played much better than Bryant. But yes lets see if he can consistently play well now.
 
You think Hayward would be playing this much if we were going to the playoffs with a healthy line-up? Nope, he'd be sittin on the bench.
 
Shad said:
You think Hayward would be playing this much if we were going to the playoffs with a healthy line-up? Nope, he'd be sittin on the bench.
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That would have been a bad move because he's clearly better than the guys you believe would have been playing.
 
1 for 5 against the Blazers. I'm not ready to ask for forgiveness for booing the pick just yet. Let's hope that Hayward can improve his consistency next year...if there is a year.
 
GVC said:
I may be retarded.
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This would make a phenomenal signature.

IMO, the verdict is still out on hayward. He moves great, plays good D, but his shooting is atrocious. I can only hope that it's first year adjusting. If he turns out to be a reliable and consistent shooter, than the kid will get my vote.
 
Viny, you're right about his shooting over the year, but he has shown signs. Check out his 3-pt percentage once he started getting minutes. I don't know exactly what it is, but it's been good. No one can deny he has a good stroke.
 
I didn't exactly boo the Hayward pick, but I was upset the Jazz didn't draft a big instead. When the Jazz later signed Jefferson, I was fine with the Hayward pick.

My only issue with Hayward was I knew we were losing Boozer, I knew Okur would not contribute this year after his injury, and I thought the Jazz would go into full money saving mode and replace Boozer with some D-League scrub. So drafting Hayward seemed pretty stupid at the time.

I am definitely in the eating crow camp. Hayward looks like he will be great next season. Sloan stepping down was probably the best thing the Jazz could have hoped for in regards to Hayward's development. And that is not a "Sloan sucked with young players" knock. It's a "Hornacek going full time was great for Hayward" statement.
 
VINYLONE said:
This would make a phenomenal signature.

IMO, the verdict is still out on hayward. He moves great, plays good D, but his shooting is atrocious. I can only hope that it's first year adjusting. If he turns out to be a reliable and consistent shooter, than the kid will get my vote.
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Shooting's atrocious?!!! He's at 46+% from the floor and over 43% from three point land.
 
VINYLONE said:
This would make a phenomenal signature.

IMO, the verdict is still out on hayward. He moves great, plays good D, but his shooting is atrocious. I can only hope that it's first year adjusting. If he turns out to be a reliable and consistent shooter, than the kid will get my vote.
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He's shooting over 46% for the year and 43% from the three. That's pretty far from atrocious. Maybe you have him confused with CJ. He's only 21, the consistency will come.
 
My2Cents said:
He's shooting over 46% for the year and 43% from the three. That's pretty far from atrocious. Maybe you have him confused with CJ. He's only 21, the consistency will come.
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My2Cents said:
He's shooting over 46% for the year and 43% from the three. That's pretty far from atrocious. Maybe you have him confused with CJ. He's only 21, the consistency will come.
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And that's after a pretty rough start so it means he's gotten a lot better as the season's progressed. I'll take 46%/43% for a full year from a wing player. As a conparison, Kobe averages 45/34. If a wing player is above 45% overall and in the upper 30'sfrom 3-pt range, that's very, very good.
 
VINYLONE said:
This would make a phenomenal signature.

IMO, the verdict is still out on hayward. He moves great, plays good D, but his shooting is atrocious. I can only hope that it's first year adjusting. If he turns out to be a reliable and consistent shooter, than the kid will get my vote.
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write4u said:
Viny, you're right about his shooting over the year, but he has shown signs. Check out his 3-pt percentage once he started getting minutes. I don't know exactly what it is, but it's been good. No one can deny he has a good stroke.
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Really? Attrocious?


FG% .463 (about 5th on the team, better than Harris and CJ, AJ is at .496...not that far off)
3pt% .433 (far and away the highest on the team...and up there in the NBA in general too)
FT% .700 (should be better, still not bad at all)


So I guess you must mean shot selection or something. I don't know. But his shooting is anything but "attrocious".
 
LogGrad98 said:
Really? Attrocious?


FG% .463 (about 5th on the team, better than Harris and CJ, AJ is at .496...not that far off)
3pt% .433 (far and away the highest on the team...and up there in the NBA in general too)
FT% .700 (should be better, still not bad at all)


So I guess you must mean shot selection or something. I don't know. But his shooting is anything but "attrocious".
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Yeah, 43% from 3 is quite good. Still a little bit of a mystery why his FT numbers are down from college. Look for him to be over 80% next year.
 
I've never booed a pick in my life, but I hate this one. Hopefully I will be able to join the ranks of those who end up regretting the first instinct.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
I've never booed a pick in my life, but I hate this one. Hopefully I will be able to join the ranks of those who end up regretting the first instinct.
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I'm OP. And I haven't booed a single Jazz pick since, and I've gone to all the parties.

I'm don't know if he'll work out, but I do know that I was really excited when they traded for Al Jefferson. So I basically know jack **** about basketball talent.

I went to the party tonight. I love going to these things. Hanging with my fellow fat Jazz fans. Boler working the crowd. Jazz management hunkered down in their undisclosed secure location, keeping all us A-Holes in the dark. Laughing at the Knicks fans.

And sure enough, with Booker and Oubre on the board and Kaminsky and Turner gone when Adam Silve announced the pick, some booed, some cheered, I just sat there and thought, I can't wait to see what happens with Trey Lyles.

That's how much confidence I have in the front office these days. They made their choice and I have 100% confidence in it. These are the mo-fros that brought Hood last year and Gobert the year before. Signed Trevor Booker.

They're doing a great job.
 
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