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I rarely complain about the officiating...

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But this game was awful... I watched this team get shafted on calls all throughout the 4 game road trip and overcome it... That's okay, I expect to get a few calls against us on the road, that's why it's "home court advantage"...

But does that translate back to the Delta Center?? No.. And it's because David Stern is a little butt hurt about the small market Jazz throwing a few of his big money teams into a bit of a losing stretch...

That no call on Kirilenko in the paint was crucial... He got fouled at least twice on that drive and no call... Not to mention I saw the Thunder climbing all over the Jazzs backs for rebounds the entire 2nd half... Clean steals by Deron, etc, called for fouls... A clean block by Fesenko called for a foul.... I could go on here, but I think you get the point...

It says a lot about this team when they overcome these calls on the road, in which I expect some to go the other teams way... But at home, it is really frustrating that guys' good play is negated by a damn referee needing to get involved in the game...

Just had to rant...
 
I DO complain about the refs all the time.

TOnight was bad because of Steve Javie, who really seems to like to stick it to the jazz.

The worst one for me was when Durrant totally bodychecked CJ and Javie called a foul on CJ. Then Westbrook went up for a shot, and a foul was called on Deron and Deron didn't even contest the shot.

Later, when the ball went out of bounds, definitely off of OK, Javie was right there signally OK ball, but the other ref came in and changed the call.
 
The push on AK at the end was hilarious. Same with the one on CJ mentioend above. Officiating was terrible tonight.
 
craig2112 said:
I DO complain about the refs all the time.

TOnight was bad because of Steve Javie, who really seems to like to stick it to the jazz.

The worst one for me was when Durrant totally bodychecked CJ and Javie called a foul on CJ. Then Westbrook went up for a shot, and a foul was called on Deron and Deron didn't even contest the shot.

Oh, yeah I forgot about this one... That was probably the worst call of the night... No wonder, I didn't mention it, I'm trying to forget it...

Later, when the ball went out of bounds, definitely off of OK, Javie was right there signally OK ball, but the other ref came in and changed the call.

I knew the face of the referee and recalled many a time him giving us the shaft... But I don't care to learn a lot of the referees names, I don't come to the games to cheer them on... I don't give them the pleasure of even knowing their names, because their all bought and paid for criminals anyway... But I have to say, that I really like Bevetta, the only ref that I can put a name and a face with because I think he's the only ref left in the NBA that isn't corrupt...
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How about them Jazz!!
 
its a makeup game from the refs.

for the shafting okc got lasts eason.
when cj fouled durant but a no call.

so the nba refs owned okc 1 game in ESA

simple as that
 
The best way to avoid this is to not fall behind by 12 and allow a few bad calls to affect the outcome of the game.
 
The Jazz lost this game for the following reasons.

1. They were out rebound.
2. Oklahoma City abused them with their jump shots. They shot the lights out. Credit to them.
3. Oklahoma City made their FT's. Yeah, they went to the line a lot, but they made the freebies.
4. ****ing honz had something to do with it. I just know it.

The refs will miss calls and make bad call, but at the end of the day the finger pointing should be pointing right at the Jazz.
 
Archie Moses said:
The Jazz lost this game for the following reasons.

1. They were out rebound.
2. Oklahoma City abused them with their jump shots. They shot the lights out. Credit to them.
3. Oklahoma City made their FT's. Yeah, they went to the line a lot, but they made the freebies.
4. ****ing honz had something to do with it. I just know it.

The refs will miss calls and make bad call, but at the end of the day the finger pointing should be pointing right at the Jazz.
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Steve Javie has always gotten pleasure out of screwing the Jazz which he has done very often. Interesting that after four fantastic road wins he gets the call to stop the Jazz.
 
WinningUgly said:
Steve Javie has always gotten pleasure out of screwing the Jazz which he has done very often. Interesting that after four fantastic road wins he gets the call to stop the Jazz.
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Yeah, Javie made the Thunder make their shots. Dude, the Thunder should have been the Swishes tonight. Give 'em some credit.
 
Always the same. We complain about bad reffing and some "voice of reason" has to come in here and lecture us on all the other reasons why the jazz lost the game.

WE KNOW! DUH.

But we can still point out the bad reffing when it happens, and tonight, it happened. I have a friend who turned the game off when it was 16-4, and he saw that Javie was reffing and he said "Jazz will lose, I"m not gonna watch"
He called later and said, "Let me guess, Javie made bad calls and the OK shot many more free throws"

If you haven't read "Personal Foul" by that one ref, I highly recommend that you do.

And I have to laugh at whoever said that Bavetta is the best ref. It's because of Bavetta that the Stock/Malone Jazz didn't win the 98 title....oh wait, I can't say that can I? If the jazz had just made all their shots, they would have won anyways, right?
 
And isn't it funny that last night, the lakers lose at home to the suns, and Phil Jackson spends the whole
post game talking about one ref call in the 2nd quarter and blamed the loss on that call.
 
I'd say rebounding right now is our biggest concern. But I'm not terribly worried after this game, the 1st one back off a long roadie is always the toughest. Plus it was only 1 day rest after so many games in a short span. This stretch of games with such little rest is kind of ridiculous if you asked me.
 
Phil Jackson knows that when he complains the league listens. If the Jazz complain, they probably just get fined and that's about it.
 
DutchJazzer said:
its a makeup game from the refs.

for the shafting okc got lasts eason.
when cj fouled durant but a no call.

so the nba refs owned okc 1 game in ESA

simple as that
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If that was the case the Jazz where already owed a game from getting jobbed in OKC on New Years eve, if you need to ask cause you don't remember then you don't deserve to know.
 
There was definitely an effort by the refs to slow the game down. Thunder came out flat and down by 12 and all of a sudden it's a march to the free throw line by OKC.

Having said that, you have to be a blind homer to think The Jazz should have won last night.

-After the first period, Thunder had uncontested shots all night long because The Jazz didn't rotate on defense, we're slow to defend spots in the zone and didn't fight through high screens which led to wide open jumpers.

-Serge "Frickin" Ibaka had open looks all night long. His last shot was finally contested and he bricked it badly. Jazz basically gave away a dozen points because they never bothered to guard him.

-D-Will took control early, Russell Westbrook took control in crunch time.

-Jazz still can't take advantage of the mis-matches given to them when the opposing team switches up and puts a bigger body on D-Will

-Late TO's by The Jazz, a lot of offensive sets stuck in mud 25 feet from the basket.

- Kirilenko didn't get the call late - but he can't finish either.

-I love AJ - but let's face it. He blew two gimme's late
 
Next win someone should pull out the "we overcame the refs and won anyway, Stern tried to keep us down but we wouldn't give in" I think it's a nice twist on the whole refs cost us the game motif.
 
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