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I think we need to shake up the roster...

It's a good thought, but I think the proportion of shots that aren't open/wide open has more to with the ability to shoot off the dribble/on the move than it is a player's actual gravity. We know Niang does not shoot off of screens or off the dribble, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have gravity. Curry had the most open+wide open 3 attempts per game last season and it's not because he wasn't spreading the defense.
I think it has to do with where they are positioned on the court as well. Niang did well above the break so there is just more space to be had. Paschall seems like primarily a corner three guy and when he has taken them above the break they are wide open... haven't looked at the numbers... just based on observations so could be completely wrong.

He's also a smart player so may have known where to be to get open.
 
I think it has to do with where they are positioned on the court as well. Niang did well above the break so there is just more space to be had. Paschall seems like primarily a corner three guy and when he has taken them above the break they are wide open... haven't looked at the numbers... just based on observations so could be completely wrong.

He's also a smart player so may have known where to be to get open.

Also the quick trigger. Niang had great form to shoot quickly in C&S situations....he barely jumped and fired away without hesitation. Paschall has a long windup and elevates on his 3's as if he's trying to get a tough bucket in the paint.

To my eye, Quin has Paschall playing an Oni role where he's in the corner and doesn't do much else. I think that's fine and lets him crash the boards...but I do wonder if he'd more successful playing at the top. I don't trust his ability to shoot it, but he can make some plays out of the short role and attack off the dribble. I think this is especially the case when teams are switching. He can put in work against smaller guys. He might be the second best scorer against switches behind Don. If he has a smaller guy, that guy is getting put under the basket.

We were masking some of Royce's shooting woes by putting him at the top where he could short roll and drive a bit. I'd like to see Paschall get that chance too.
 
Also the quick trigger. Niang had great form to shoot quickly in C&S situations....he barely jumped and fired away without hesitation. Paschall has a long windup and elevates on his 3's as if he's trying to get a tough bucket in the paint.

To my eye, Quin has Paschall playing an Oni role where he's in the corner and doesn't do much else. I think that's fine and lets him crash the boards...but I do wonder if he'd more successful playing at the top. I don't trust his ability to shoot it, but he can make some plays out of the short role and attack off the dribble. I think this is especially the case when teams are switching. He can put in work against smaller guys. He might be the second best scorer against switches behind Don. If he has a smaller guy, that guy is getting put under the basket.

We were masking some of Royce's shooting woes by putting him at the top where he could short roll and drive a bit. I'd like to see Paschall get that chance too.
Speaking of Oni, is his picture on the back of a milk carton? Not too many sightings of him in these parts.
 
I'm seeing this discussions and i actually agree with some of them, but then, i guess we should look at better ways to fit guys toghether that they compose lineups that make sense to everyone's strenghts, so that then the collective take the best out of them to make the team better than (or at least as good) the sums of it's parts.

Donovan got better as a playmaker, but his less dependant of operating in pick and roll - if anything he may be a guy that waving to the big coming for screens to deny it as much if not more than Conley and Ingles combined, if not Clarkson too. He can play in a way where we not only play more physical on defense (where his more active efforts been nice, and maybe even leading to better performances there, but he's been going through some foul troubles because of that, so he also needs to learn to not overdo things, also to stop making eurofouls, as he of all players can't risk foul trouble), but also faster on offense, which fits Paschall and Clarkson games much more than Ingles. But instead we sub Ingles first, have him not being able to start sets and losing time on the clock because his limitations off the dribble make him screen dependant, and we combine that with Whiteside "less than great" screening hability, while keeping Paschall to space for Gobert (and doing so parked on the corner), also making us less able to put teams on rotation, and playing to Clarkson's weakness as of setting a hero ball turnover prone enviroment, instead of one that works well around him, and that he steps in as a wildcard, not a regular saviour. Also the worst our offense be, the worst our defense gets, as we suuuuuuck on transition defense.
 
I love JC, but he's really hurting the team right now and might not be reliable in the post season. He might not just be in a slump either, since I think the rule changes are a big part of his struggles. Also Gay could probably take over his scoring in the second unit. I don't think Snyder is going to reign him in either, so it probably only gets better through a trade.

On the other hand I can't imagine that goes over well in the locker room. JC is also awesome and I would miss him. I have no idea what we could get back either.

Please delete my account now since I basically hate this idea.
 
I love JC, but he's really hurting the team right now and might not be reliable in the post season. He might not just be in a slump either, since I think the rule changes are a big part of his struggles. Also Gay could probably take over his scoring in the second unit. I don't think Snyder is going to reign him in either, so it probably only gets better through a trade.

On the other hand I can't imagine that goes over well in the locker room. JC is also awesome and I would miss him. I have no idea what we could get back either.

Please delete my account now since I basically hate this idea.
A big part of his slump is catch and shoot threes which I really don’t think the rule change is bothering him.

We are just in a weird spot and the data is so weird that I think it’s just too limited of a sample. The lineup stuff is weird to me. For example last year Donovan and JC were negative when on the court together… this year they are plus 13 pts per 100. There are other things that just seem weird. Long term I think we understand the issues we have and should look for no brainer type deals. If we aren’t able to shake something loose then roll with what we have with maybe some bargain trade deadline deals for minimums and seconds.

There are like 6-7 realistic targets that we could move Bogey or JC for and improve. If those teams won’t trade those guys then we outta luck.
 
I don't know that they need to shake things up that much. I'd rather not sell low on guys just cuz they are struggling.

We know this Jazz team can be really good. Last year they peaked early. This year they going to peak at the right time.
 
I know Snyder's offense is all about creating space, but I would love to see action away from the ball under the rim. Double picks to free up Gobert for a dunk. I hate seeing a small player guarding him down low and nothing happens. The dunk also matters as much as the three!
 
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