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If Shabazz and Schroeder are undrafted at 13

Stoked said:
Let Favors, Hayward, Burks, Kanter, DMC, Evans, 13, 14 & 21 marinate for a year then add a pick from the 2014 draft (Parker and Wiggins are thrown around) and go for it all.
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Now we are speaking the same language.
 
scootsy said:
The thing is, If they are going for cap space, unless they can dump Marion, it would make no sense to trade for burks and lose the benefit of a rookie salary then save money by actually signing their lottery pick.

Burks was a 14 pick (and a stretch at that). He hasn't proven anything in two years to warrant being traded straight up for anything better than a 14th pick anyways.
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I'm pretty sure Burks was projected like 6th man. And he was drafted 12-- Leonard was 14
 
If Shabazz becomes Corey Maggette then he'd be great for us. Seriously, when was the last time we had a wing who had serious potential to put up 20 PPG?
 
I'd be fine giving up both picks to move up for Bazz. Even mix in Burks to get it done.

Rather have that than a couple guys who are more than likely going to be out of the league in a few years.

Go for it!
 
dalamon said:
I'm pretty sure Burks was projected like 6th man. And he was drafted 12-- Leonard was 14
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Ya I remeber burks being mocked at between 6-8 so he was a steal at 12, not a stretch at 14 as scooty suggests.

Also I remember leonard being projected as high as 5...... wonder why he fell so damn far.... and I think leonard was taken like 16th or something (someone google it)
Edut: he was darfted 15th
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya I remeber burks being mocked at between 6-8 so he was a steal at 12, not a stretch at 14 as scooty suggests.

Also I remember leonard being projected as high as 5...... wonder why he fell so damn far.... and I think leonard was taken like 16th or something (someone google it)
Edut: he was darfted 15th
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By draft day DX had Burks at 18, NBAdraft at 13, you're a bit off here.
 
David Stern said:
If Shabazz becomes Corey Maggette then he'd be great for us. Seriously, when was the last time we had a wing who had serious potential to put up 20 PPG?
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I've never understood the Maggette love here. Especially now after we just endured the BigAl years. If that's who Bazz is, I say no thanks.
 
Spaniard said:
I've never understood the Maggette love here. Especially now after we just endured the BigAl years. If that's who Bazz is, I say no thanks.
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It's because for years he went off 30+ points against us. I think it had more to do with one legged harpring trying to defend him than anything Maggs actually ever did.
 
The Thriller said:
It's because for years he went off 30+ points against us. I think it had more to do with one legged harpring trying to defend him than anything Maggs actually ever did.
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I remember watching him after he would play us and he was still a good scorer but not like he was against us. Still didn't change the fact that he NEVER passed the ball and I mean Morris Almond Never.
 
Jazz4ever said:
By draft day DX had Burks at 18, NBAdraft at 13, you're a bit off here.
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Guess it depends on which ones you look at
I googled 2011 nba mock draft and saw the ones you are talking about and then saw one with him at 8 and one at 9.
Regardless, I consider him a steal at 12
 
I'm torn on Shabazz. On the one hand he has the offensive repertoire and the drive to pull the defense out of position, but I don't know how effective he'll be at finishing at the NBA level, and I don't know if he can pass or make plays otherwise. I know he's a guy who will take and sometimes make big shots, but I wonder how much he'll help his team win.

It's a bit the same concern I have with Carmello Anthony. Anthony is a very skilled offensive player who takes tough shots. There are some nights when he's on fire, but when he's not hitting, he actually hurts his team by not playing hard on defense and wasting possessions on offense. Denver has been just as good without him. Shabazz isn't at Carmello's level.

I think at the very least, Shabazz could be a 6th man-of-the-year candidate--a guy who comes in and lights up the opposing team's bench players then normally plays in the 4th quarter.

But then I ask myself, can't we get the same from Glen Rice Jr., Ricky Ledo or Archie Goodwin?
 
Catchall said:
I'm torn on Shabazz. On the one hand he has the offensive repertoire and the drive to pull the defense out of position, but I don't know how effective he'll be at finishing at the NBA level, and I don't know if he can pass or make plays otherwise. I know he's a guy who will take and sometimes make big shots, but I wonder how much he'll help his team win.

It's a bit the same concern I have with Carmello Anthony. Anthony is a very skilled offensive player who takes tough shots. There are some nights when he's on fire, but when he's not hitting, he actually hurts his team by not playing hard on defense and wasting possessions on offense. Denver has been just as good without him. Shabazz isn't at Carmello's level.

I think at the very least, Shabazz could be a 6th man-of-the-year candidate--a guy who comes in and lights up the opposing team's bench players then normally plays in the 4th quarter.

But then I ask myself, can't we get the same from Glen Rice Jr., Ricky Ledo or Archie Goodwin?
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Very good post.
 
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