Matthew Thomas Castleton
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we will have the second best record in the Western Conference. That is all.
If we beat the Clippers tonight and San Antonio loses in Miami...
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LunaticWolf
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Does it matter? By BCS, we are better than Miami.
Jazz > Nuggets > Heat
Jazz > Nuggets > Heat
The Lakers and the Thunder both will still have a better record than Utah. Frickin' math...
orangello
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Ok, let me help you with some simple math. If you win 9 games out of 13 you have a win percentage of .692%. The Lakers right now are at .667% and they do not play tonight. So, let me ask you a simple question, is .692% a bigger number than .667%? If you can answer that correctly you will be able to see that the Jazz will have a better record.
The Lakers have played more games but they have also lost more games. Simple math.
Jazz4ever
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I hear you my friend, this board sometimes...
Stifle Tower
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And props to TY the Tu..
He has coached much better than some thought.
He has coached much better than some thought.
orangello
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I totally agree. He has these guys playing hard and having fun. There is no better combination than that.
akirac73
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I agree with the intent of this thread. Definitely stoked about how well the Jazz are doing after the miserable start.
To be fair to Scat...standings aren't based on win percentage. It's based on games above .500
If Team "A" is 5-1, and Team "B" has a 3-0 record. Guess which team is in first place despite win percentage?
So in this particular case, the Lakers and Jazz are both tied for the second best record, since both teams are 5 games over .500
Funny math?...definitely.
To be fair to Scat...standings aren't based on win percentage. It's based on games above .500
If Team "A" is 5-1, and Team "B" has a 3-0 record. Guess which team is in first place despite win percentage?
So in this particular case, the Lakers and Jazz are both tied for the second best record, since both teams are 5 games over .500
Funny math?...definitely.
Well of course OKC will they are the #1 seed. However the Lakers are 10-5 so they have played 2 more games and are 1-1 over those games. Jazz have a better win % than the Lakers.
orangello
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I hear what you are saying but I respectfully disagree with you. Not only do I disagree with you but so does every major sport website that has NBA standings.
Matthew Thomas Castleton
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The NBA uses both games over .500 and winning percentage to determine its standings. Both the Jazz and the Lakers are 5 games over .500. Therefore, the have the same overall record. However, because the Jazz have less losses, they have a better winning percentage than the Lakers because you cannot make up a loss. If both the Jazz and the Lakers were to win the exact same amount of games going forward for the rest of the season from now, the Jazz would end the season with the better record.
Stifle Tower
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And I guess you could also then say the Lakers have the tie-breaker based on head-to-head games.
Stifle Tower
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This morning when I pulled up the standings, the Clippers were on top of the Pacific in terms of winning %, but were actually 1/2 game back. NBA standings are shown on winning percentage. The +/- disparity in games back will take care of itself when games played becomes a bot more equal. For example, the Lakers have already played 15 games, while tonight was just the 11th for the Clippers.
Matthew Thomas Castleton
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I didn't mention the whole "how many games back" thing in my analysis. The amount of games over .500 and winning percentage are the only factors that matter in determining NBA Standings. At least until the end of the season. The only factors that matter then are overall record and tie-breakers because all teams will have played the same amount of games. The only way that the Lakers or anybody else can overtake us in the standings more than just temporarily is if WE lose games. Case in point: the Lakers, Spurs, and Nuggets are all currently ahead of the Clippers in the conference standings even though they all have five losses while the Clippers have just four. However, if theoretically the Clippers were to not lose another game all season (even though it is highly unlikely), there is NO WAY that the Lakers, Spurs, or Nuggets could possibly finish higher in a hypothetical final standings than the Clippers unless they were to lose another game. The standings don't really matter at all until teams are far enough into a season that they can clinch a playoff berth and/or a seed in the playoffs by being enough games ahead of other teams.
"Amount of games over .500" isn't a factor in the standings, not even as a tiebreaker. You kind of go on to describe exactly why it isn't in your own post. (A 10-5 team, 5 games above .500, would be ranked behind a 3-1 team, 2 games above .500).
It's simply winning percentage, followed by playoff tiebreakers (head-to-head, division record, conf. record, etc.)
It's simply winning percentage, followed by playoff tiebreakers (head-to-head, division record, conf. record, etc.)
Matthew Thomas Castleton
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Huh, that's right. I think that I was thinking that the amount of games over .500 had something to do with it. However, I realized that this factor only helps people to know how many games back a team is from another team. That is why earlier in the day the Clippers were a half game behind the Lakers even though the Clippers had a better winning percentage and therefore a better record. My mistake.
carolinajazz
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....we would be the 4th seed in the Western Conference....with home court advantage if the season ended today!