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IF we lose this series…

Gameface said:
Will the Clippers play in Utah the way they have in the last two games?

Will they get the favorable whistle?

Will they have the energy to maintain their high energy defense... at altitude?

Do the Jazz role players play better at home?

I think the Jazz have a damn good chance to win game 5.

If the Jazz win game five then the Clippers have to beat them again in Utah to win the series.

This **** isn't over.
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We need Mike back or we are cooked. We also have to do so many things better.

It sucks if we lose though because I think Game 6 becomes a roll over and die game if we lose. The ramifications of going down in flames like this could be catastrophic.

Andy Larsen absolutely killed it in his triple team... saying a lot of the same **** I been saying about DL... namely we are "all in" on this year and you have given the coach no options at the end of the bench... called out the Thomas and Udoka moves specifically. It was great to read it in something that hopefully gets back to DL wherever he is.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
What happens during the offseason? Predictions, please.

My guess is that we would look at our regular season success and would largely run it back to the frustration of many.

Anything short of the conference finals is a failed season. Even the ‘15 Hawks made the conference finals.
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If we lose this series it’s because we were down Conley who was getting us into our offense getting into the paint and kicking out or lobs to Gobert. He was doing it better than both Ingles and Mitchell, and making everyone else better around him, as well as getting his own and was very efficient from three. If we had Conley the whole series, we probably have a better first quarter which changes what happens in the second quarter and we were the better team in the second half winning both quarters in the second half. You are overreacting. Our offense looks way better with Conley in the game. I believe this team fully healthy has what it takes to go far in post season play. Last year no Bogey, this year DM isn’t at full strength but still putting up huge numbers and Conley has been out. And he’s a huge part of our success. There’s really no reason we should win with Conley out. Utah played out of their minds at home vs the Clippers. If we lose there’s no need to panic to much.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Nah... it’s not that bad, we can beat them at home, but without Mike it most likely takes 7 games to beat them. If we win that is.
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No mike = no win.

Clips have figured us out without Mike. If the shoe was on the other foot and they didn't have PG then things are obviously different. It sucks.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We need Mike back or we are cooked. We also have to do so many things better.

It sucks if we lose though because I think Game 6 becomes a roll over and die game if we lose. The ramifications of going down in flames like this could be catastrophic.

Andy Larsen absolutely killed it in his triple team... saying a lot of the same **** I been saying about DL... namely we are "all in" on this year and you have given the coach no options at the end of the bench... called out the Thomas and Udoka moves specifically. It was great to read it in something that hopefully gets back to DL wherever he is.
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Yeah, and that's why the Jazz have been holding Mike out.

Imagine if he pushes the hammy and blows his knee out? This era of the Jazz really relies on Conley having 2-3 more good years while the Jazz transition to new playmakers through some divine luck in the draft or free agency.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
If the jazz don’t **** the bed in the first quarter last night, we have a chance to win last night. We are much better at home.
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When you are down by a million the other quarters have less meaning... last night was one real quarter and extended garbage time.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, and that's why the Jazz have been holding Mike out.

Imagine if he pushes the hammy and blows his knee out? This era of the Jazz really relies on Conley having 2-3 more good years while the Jazz transition to new playmakers through some divine luck in the draft or free agency.
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I get that... I really do... this year is the best opportunity we will have to win a title imo. Conley likely declines a bit the next couple years and has already started to struggle with injuries. Joe and Bogey ain't spring chickens. Not saying he should rush back if he isn't ready, but being overly cautious with an eye towards the next couple years may not be the best course of action.

If he can't go... then he can't go. I'm not sure what difference 12 days versus 14 days really means... what if the magic number is 16... and what if he doesn't come back at all this series and then gets a better offer in FA? I'd be surprised if he doesn't play game 5 unless they just know he is out the whole series and are trying to keep the Clips guessing.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
When you are down by a million the other quarters have less meaning... last night was one real quarter and extended garbage time.
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And that's why I always say final score is meaningless. The game last night was really only played in the first quarter, and in that quarter the Jazz got walloped. They lost. Final score tells us nothing.
 
If Mike Conley can't come back in this series, it means that the Mike Conley experience has been a failure and the Jazz should move on from him.

A guy who is that age and who is overmatched physically probably won't stay healthy.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
If Mike Conley can't come back in this series, it means that the Mike Conley experience has been a failure and the Jazz should move on from him.

A guy who is that age and who is overmatched physically probably won't stay healthy.
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People wake up. We need him back. There is no cap space and nobody else we can sign.
 
Gameface said:
This thread when the Jazz are tied 2-2?

@nateboz was talking nonsense about how weak players are nowadays. **** you want to see weak, look at some of you! You're all people who made an account on jazzfanz.com, the world's best jazz fan message board. WTF are you doing here if you're jumping ship in a series where the Jazz are tied 2-2?

Obviously you either didn't go through the early 90's as a Jazz fan or you just straight up forgot. Being a Jazz fan ain't easy. So if you want being a fan to be easy then go sign up on some Lakers message board, then on the Patriots message board then the NY Yankees message board. You're not gonna get a championship every year, but you'll never have to wait long and when things are even kind of good you'll be able to tune into ESPN and hear all about your marvelous team.

So if that's what you want GTFO and go get what you want you instant gratification, no guts, no commitment, no confidence, nothingfans.

Stop polluting this fantastic fan message board with your anxiety laden tripe. The Jazz are tied 2-2 with a team that was projected to be a WCF guarantee .

Those boys have to come back up the hill to our house, where the seats are full and the air is thin. If you're jumping off the bus right now don't bother getting back on after game 5. Go find another team.
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Lmao. You’d almost think that a message board was a place meant for people to blow off steam amongst other fans of the same team. You people get too wound up about others showing negative emotion.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
If Mike Conley can't come back in this series, it means that the Mike Conley experience has been a failure and the Jazz should move on from him.

A guy who is that age and who is overmatched physically probably won't stay healthy.
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If he doesn't come back in this series and we lose this series, there is no reason whatsoever to call the trade a success.

We can probably now say it wasn't our worst trade ever, but we should all be underwhelmed by the trade if he misses the entire 2nd round.

If he just leaves this summer.....

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Ineptimusprime said:
What happens during the offseason? Predictions, please.

My guess is that we would look at our regular season success and would largely run it back to the frustration of many.

Anything short of the conference finals is a failed season. Even the ‘15 Hawks made the conference finals.
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In a much easier conference. The Clips are one of the two most talented and deep teams in the league. I am not surrendering but I don't recall the last time a 4 seed was anything like the Clips.
 
LoPo said:
If he doesn't come back in this series and we lose this series, there is no reason whatsoever to call the trade a success.

We can probably now say it wasn't our worst trade ever, but we should all be underwhelmed by the trade if he misses the entire 2nd round.

If he just leaves this summer.....

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Because in our crystal ball we should have known he would get hurt?
 
gomretat said:
In a much easier conference. The Clips are one of the two most talented and deep teams in the league. I am not surrendering but I don't recall the last time a 4 seed was anything like the Clips.
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Seeding doesn't matter as much as matchups... teams have adjusted accordingly. Clips were a pre-season title favorite. They are legit. Nothing truly wrong with losing to them... just sucks we had them in the corner and they fought us off and now have a pretty clear advantage... at least right now.
 
White Chocolate said:
People wake up. We need him back. There is no cap space and nobody else we can sign.
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But the Jazz aren't keeping this roster in tact anyway. They are absolutely going to dump a rotation player if they retain Conley. Maybe Conley is a better asset than whoever they decide to dump. But maybe a guy that can't play 5 consecutive games isn't that useful in the playoffs.

I'm in favor of keeping Conley to preserve the asset, but shedding a player will result from that.

Maybe drafting anyone that even has a chance to be useful would've been a good idea. Doke's best shot at that is Favors being the one jettisoned.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Nah... it’s not that bad, we can beat them at home, but without Mike it most likely takes 7 games to beat them. If we win that is.
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Sorry, what the **** games have you been watching? The Jazz needed a god-mode Mitchell at home in games 1 and 2 to eek out wins, and got ****ing embarrassed in the last two games.

I don't understand the arrogance of some people around here because that's exactly what it is. This Jazz team has to maximize every detail to be as good as they have been and the Clippers can give half-effort and find their way in the finals. It's just reality.

It is bad, dude. Clippers win tomorrow and the series is over.
 
NUMBERICA said:
But the Jazz aren't keeping this roster in tact anyway. They are absolutely going to dump a rotation player if they retain Conley. Maybe Conley is a better asset than whoever they decide to dump. But maybe a guy that can't play 5 consecutive games isn't that useful in the playoffs.

I'm in favor of keeping Conley to preserve the asset, but shedding a player will result from that.

Maybe drafting anyone that even has a chance to be useful would've been a good idea. Doke's best shot at that is Favors being the one jettisoned.
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We don’t know that for sure.

In the case we do have to shed someone I will take Conley over Ingles/Clarkson/Favors without hesitation.

It also depends on how much Conley re-signs for if he does.
 
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