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Is Climate Change a real issue?

Is Climate Change a real issue?

  • Yep

    Votes: 11 57.9%

  • Nope

    Votes: 6 31.6%

  • Pickles

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • Total voters
    19
I just want to say that Science is probably the most boring journal name they could have come up with.

I also want to say that my dad's generation grew up fearing an impending ice age. Wow their scientists were so wrong LOL!!
 
scootsy said:
I also want to say that my dad's generation grew up fearing an impending ice age. Wow their scientists were so wrong LOL!!
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There was never a scientific consensus on an impending ice age. There was some popular media about the possibility, though.
 
babe said:
I won't bother to rehash basic chemistry here, but I would frankly say this sentence contains a lot of hogwash. Oh, the pH has dropped in the past hundred years, and I'm sure there have been continual changes following carbon dioxide pressures over the water across all time. And like I said, we should study these things and what is happening with all life on our earth. Maybe even improve the way we do things to minimize impacts on nature. Probably we should look at the load of hype in our rhetoric, though. This guy is phrasing the facts in alarmist garb.

The level of CO2 was, at 270 ppm, near the lowest in all of earth history. Sea pH had been declining for millions of years, and the oceans have been getting saltier. There were lots of things happening then that had never happened before, probably a lot of sea life dying off and going extinct. We are returning towards the "normal" which existed a hundred million years ago.

Like I said, we should be more concerned about the politicization of science, and the effects of propaganda on the public mind. Fascism depends on having a willing mass of idiots reacting on cue.
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So the state of the world a hundred million years ago is normal, and the state of the world during the million or so years during which humanoids have existed is the aberration. I gather from your post that in a hundred years or so we have made significant shift away from the state our species has known, and towards dino utopia. This is normal. How fast is this transition expected to occur? Your goal is to encourage complacency with the prospect of reversing millions of years of change in just hundreds of years?
 
Isn't global warming a top 3 concern for the DoD? I think I remember reading that somewhere, something like parts of the world will become uninhabitable and will force mass-emigration and that the US is in the climate zone that should expect mass-immigration. Too lazy to check my facts.
 
To say that we aren't affecting the environment is stupid. Look at the Wasatch Front or LA.

To say that what we are doing is going to kill us in in the next 30 years (what climate change people were saying in the 70's is stupid).

The problem, like most issues in this country, is no one wants to find the truth. Everyone just wants to see what helps their ideas, and ignore data that makes them look bad.
 
green said:
To say that what we are doing is going to kill us in in the next 30 years (what climate change people were saying in the 70's is stupid).
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I don't remember anyone saying that. Link? Did all climate change people say this or just one? Did you twist his words around a little? Did he say all of us , or some of us? Did he say will, or might? Did he say 30 years, or the next century, or something else? Did he say kill , or effect? Was he talking about global warming , or something else? If his warnings caused preventative measures that worked, does that prove his warnings were wrong?
 
The Lord isn't going to let the planet go into the toilet. Duh. It's ok. We are meant to own this blue ball. Y'all is a bunch of liberal weenies. Keep drinking the Kool-aid libs and hating we oil makin job creators.

https://m.guardiannews.com/environment/blog/2013/apr/11/republican-biblical-flood-climate-change

. The Texas Republican Joe Barton stands out even among his fellow conservative Republicans who have made it an article of faith to deny the existence of a human component to climate change.

On Wednesday, Barton cemented that reputation by citing the Old Testament to refute scientific evidence of man-made global warming, drawing on the story of Noah's ark.

"I would point out that if you are a believer in the Bible, one would have to say the great flood was an example of climate change," Barton told a congressional hearing on Wednesday in a video first shown on the Buzzfeed website. "That certainly wasn't because mankind had overdeveloped hydrocarbon energy."
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It might be hard to some to admit that they're wrong... It's okay, we all make mistakes children.

But the global warming alarmists are wrong.

https://www.newsmax.com/Rahn/Global-Warming-Temperature-Data/2013/04/02/id/497516

Much of Northern Europe, including Britain, is suffering under the coldest winter and spring of the last 30 to 100 years. The Northeastern part of the United States has had a record cold March. The record cold in Europe has killed thousands and cost billions.
It was not supposed to be this way.
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and

One of the world’s foremost experts on climate change, professor Roger Pielke Jr. of the University of Colorado at Boulder, recently wrote: “Flooding has not increased over the past century, nor have landfalling hurricanes. Remarkably, the U.S. is currently experiencing the longest-ever recorded period with no strikes of a Category 3 or stronger hurricane.”
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Ooops. Is that supposed to happen global warming alarmists? Here we are, suffering from colder winters, record cold, killing thousands and costing billions. Severe weather? Not exactly happening. The US is actually experiencing less severe hurricanes! Is that supposed to happen if the ocean's temperatures are increasing?

Btw, how much has the global temperature increased in the past 15 years? Anyone want to take a stab at it? The answer might surprise you.

The United Kingdom's Met Office has been a major source of global temperature data in recent decades, and has been heavily relied upon by global-warming proponents. On March 12, a report written by David Whitehouse and published by the Global Warming Policy Foundation concluded that “there has been no statistically significant increase in annual global temperatures since 1997.”
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Waahhhh? Since 1997? But but but... I thought that the global temperature was supposed to increase? I thought we were getting warmer???!!!

We know that some level of CO2 is necessary for life, but we do not know the optimum level. The higher the level, the more rapidly plants grow, and the cheaper food becomes. It is just as plausible to say that there is too little CO2 in the atmosphere as that there is too much to maximize human well-being.
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It's fine. More CO2 can be a good thing.

Besides, why should the American economy suffer and be stifled with new regulations as long as Asia and S. America keep rolling with the status quo? Do we really want our economy in the toilet? Do we really prefer to help out those 3rd world countries? How much longer will we remain economically successful? Pretty soon, them 3rd world countries will be 1st world while we're seen as 3rd world. Do we really want that for our children and grandchildren?

Finally, anyone here remember high school? When the big smart *** rich cool football player would crack stupid jokes and everyone would laugh at them because he was popular and no one wanted to make an enemy of him? It's basically the same thing with the global heating debate.

You have a few "popular" and "cool" and "well funded" scientists. They come up with ridiculous claims. Like... THE EARTH IS WARMING EVERYONE RUN! And... Everyone rolls with them. Peer review? Ha, consists of kissing *** and wanting to sit next to that football player err scientists at lunch. No one wants to disagree w/these well funded scientists because you'll instantly be labeled, "Anti-environment" "oil puppet" or "religious."

IMO, the global warming alarmists had their day in the sun (pun intended) and now it's over. Now we can get to real science and real issues. The earth isn't heating up. And we shouldn't worry about it. innovation will come, with time. I don't remember government regulation forcing us to move from the horse/buggie to car and train. Likewise, we don't need government regulation to force us from the car to bike or some car without guts to pass anybody.
 
Okay, I'm calling it right now. This is what will happen within the next year with the weather pattern:

There will be some cold, and some hot spells as well as some "normal" temperatures. There will be some moisture (rain/snow) and some dryness. Some days will be cloudy and some will be clear. Please do not try to argue with my forecast, there is a consensus among all scientists that I am right.
 
The Thriller said:
It might be hard to some to admit that they're wrong... It's okay, we all make mistakes children.

But the global warming alarmists are wrong.
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It would help if you would link to something that showed they were wrong. I mean, the cooling of Europe was actually one of the items mentioned in An Inconvenient Truth, so it's highly ironic that you think it disproves the notion of global warming. Similar points can be made for all of your examples. In fact, all of them are discussed in the quick on-liners link I posted.

The Thriller said:
IMO, the global warming alarmists had their day in the sun (pun intended) and now it's over. Now we can get to real science and real issues. The earth isn't heating up. And we shouldn't worry about it. innovation will come, with time. I don't remember government regulation forcing us to move from the horse/buggie to car and train. Likewise, we don't need government regulation to force us from the car to bike or some car without guts to pass anybody.
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We have not faced a mass extinction event since we diverged from the chimpanzees, and we are bred far beyond the capacity of the land to carry us without technological assistance. Your blithe assurance is foolish.
 
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