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Israel Commences Ground Invasion into Gaza.

Ban them
 
DutchJazzer said:
no but seriously lets be realistic here what do you expect the jews/israel to do.
1.leave israel and go where? australia? this is impossible. 8.000.000 people. moving to where? a booming industry and economy of a GDP of $35000 per capita virtually impossible.

2.give up land and or lift blockade?
In eccense negotiating with terroist. give up half of israel? will it stop there. knowing hamas it wont stop till israel is gone.
lets say israel gives up land and lifts blockade. what will hamas do. hamas just scored a major victory. and will gain major support from the palestinians and possible other arabs. strengthening hamas. now they got support from the Palestinian plus the blockade has been lifted so they can aslo get in weapons. so you think hamas would be like hey israel gave up 50% of land so lets live in peace with them. HECK no. now israel will deal with a bigger stronger Hamas, then we still get the same story. israel will need to give up land or at worse be annihilated.


whats the solution from the Palestinian side.
1. Bite down and fight forever.(that is done now and it aint working)
2. give up and sooner or later blockade is lifted and there will be some sort of peace.
3. get absorbed by other arab/muslim nations. a population of 1.8 million with a GDP of only $6100 per capita. almost 0 industry and economy. is gonna be hard but not impossible. especially as i seen interviews of Palestinians say they would rather die than live in gaza. so those wouldnt jump at the chance. what if israel helps out in this situation. now israel is losing money fighting this fight. what if Israel agrees to send the money saved of not fighting towards those Palestinians who got absorbed for x amount of years. and live happily ever after with their muslims brothers.


there is one other mutual options. but that will lead to short term peace. but will also mean the end of israel.
if israel gives all gazans full citizenship. soner or later there iwll be a muslim government. and sorry to be a bigot. but muslim governence is also the end of israel and democracy.


so ectya, what to you is the solution.

as israel wants peast but hamas and political factions do NOT want peace, they want israel to die
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We expect them to stop taking over foreign territory and acting like Hitler/Putin. It would also be nice if they weren't so m'fin racist, but that's not a non-negotiable condition or anything.
 
franklin said:
We expect them to stop taking over foreign territory and acting like Hitler/Putin. It would also be nice if they weren't so m'fin racist, but that's not a non-negotiable condition or anything.
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so what are u saying. option one for israel?


cus last time i checked they "stopped taking over any Territory whatsoever"
 
DutchJazzer said:
cus last time i checked they "stopped taking over any Territory whatsoever"
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Uh...Just in June, Israel started moving forward on bids for 1500+ new homes in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank continue to expand.
 
GVC said:
Uh...Just in June, Israel started moving forward on bids for 1500+ new homes in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank continue to expand.
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but israel is "at peace" with west bank.
this is about hamas/gaza
 
DutchJazzer said:
but israel is "at peace" with west bank.
this is about hamas/gaza
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There are 15,000 members of hamas. 1.8 million Palestinians. In last 21 days 800 Palestinians died, 74% of them were civilians. How come Israel is killing so many Palestinians when so few Israeli's die in comparison?
 
The Blue Elephant said:
There are 15,000 members of hamas. 1.8 million Palestinians. In last 21 days 800 Palestinians died, 74% of them were civilians. How come Israel is killing so many Palestinians when so few Israeli's die in comparison?
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israeli soldiers are not hiding weapons in schools, hospital and houses of worships.
israeli soldiers are not hiding in tunnels under kids.
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now for some real live pictures
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The Blue Elephant said:
There are 15,000 members of hamas. 1.8 million Palestinians. In last 21 days 800 Palestinians died, 74% of them were civilians. How come Israel is killing so many Palestinians when so few Israeli's die in comparison?
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One side has tanks, air support, etc. and the other side does not. That and battleground is basically in a city. When you (HAMAS) are out gunned and will die if you follow the rules of war--then you don't follow the rules of war. So you fight however you might get an advantage- human shields, out of schools, out of mosques, etc. These are the logical consequences of a horrible situation. And on a National level having might sometimes makes right. Having the US is your ally doesn't hurt.

Logically Hamas should withdrawal everyone to a friendly state, arm a real army and then have a real chance to win.
 
GVC said:
Uh...Just in June, Israel started moving forward on bids for 1500+ new homes in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank continue to expand.
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What does illegally occupied even mean? Every nation that has ever occupied foreign lands, did so illegally until it became legal when they the was acknowledged to be annexed.
 
There were only 300,000 party members in Russia who controlled 150,000,000 civilians. I bet you couldn't spot who is who... Even they couldn't. This is the definition of terror, my friend.
 
eacioban said:
There were only 300,000 party members in Russia who controlled 150,000,000 civilians. I bet you couldn't spot who is who... Even they couldn't. This is the definition of terror, my friend.
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thats the price of war.

in rusia "soldiers" where given a gun. and told to go fight. if they turned back they got shotdown by russians. if they fought they get shotdown by allieds.

so yeah. WAR!
 
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