There is nothing stupid about culture and developing players you have instead of saying to all of them : you are useless for us, please don't ever try to win, so we can replace you with others just like you that have more shine coming into the league, and are younger so therefore have higher potential smh.
Neither do I. What I fear is we "dont tank well enough" for some posters who then go on a rampage throughout the rest of the season.
I have a side bet with a coworker who feels like a lot of you do. I am fine if they tank to end the season selling off vets etc. But imo I am betting the Jazz are late lottery or right after, as being in the play in tourney is the goal now and they will not tank.
If we get in the 8/9 range that is good enough for me. I just want a chance at top 4 or to get one of our first choices of the guys after top 4. There's a chance we could get to 6-7 but I think it is slim because of the number of teams that are bunched up. Collecting assets is also good even though we have a ton. If we land 8/9 and can plop down the Lakers pick to get to 3/4 that might be something worth doing. If we snuck into the playoffs and landed at 15 and had to dip into the Cavs/Wolves picks to maneuver that sucks.
It’s honestly a can’t lose situation. I’d prefer to hurt the Wolves as much as possible - but the Jazz pick likely becomes the better asset this year and every game should count. I’m expecting at least one trade, so there’s a decent chance that the Jazz have a rough go of it.
Very much this. Relying on guys that won't be here for the next 3 years to win enough to hose our draft picks is not ideal. If the young guys do it then it means they are awesome.
And if the young guys carry us there and we cashed in on the old guys... that means we have more cash. It also opens up cap space potentially that we could use to go get more useful vets in positions of need that can benefit us for the long term.
Fair points.
I’m definitely of the “pro-tank” mindset - in that I want the team to trade players they’re not keeping long-term and accumulate as much draft capital as possible. DA has set this rebuild up perfectly, and if he nails things in the next few days it will greatly help the chances of building a contender.
Several people here, just look back a few pages. Yeah, some are calling to sit out on b2bs only. But then they're also calling to go 5-22 the rest of the way. Sitting out a couple of b2bs gets you probably one extra loss and doesn't move any needles.
Depends on what is on the table. If we only moved Vando at this point I'd be pissed. I think Vando and Malik is more likely what we see. If we had opportunities to move Mike for the Lakers deal and didn't do it cuz we were too greedy I'd be upset and think its a mistake.
We can't go 5-22 by planning but a few extra losses sitting guys very well could move the needle... if combined with a trade or two. That group is just so bunched up. last few games you can shut guys down or go to very low minutes as well. The margins are pretty thin here.
Lets say they do trade all the vets or two of them. What makes you think Ainge is going to trade for a player or players that are worse ut paid the same?
