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Im not sure what to think about Donte. I like some things about him, but some other things I dont.

He can shoot and his defense looks pretty good. His vertical is great. He can pass. He played big in the championship game,...

But his wing span worries me a little bit. On most his dunks it doesnt look like 6'5" guy with a 42" vertical. His handle just looks ok. He doesnt really shake his defender. Doesnt have a great crossover. First step is just ok. I dunno. I feel like he should be getting more out of athleticism. Maybe he can. Maybe it looks different against NBA talent.
 
Gas said:
Im not sure what to think about Donte. I like some things about him, but some other things I dont.

He can shoot and his defense looks pretty good. His vertical is great. He can pass. He played big in the championship game,...

But his wing span worries me a little bit. On most his dunks it doesnt look like 6'5" guy with a 42" vertical. His handle just looks ok. He doesnt really shake his defender. Doesnt have a great crossover. First step is just ok. I dunno. I feel like he should be getting more out of athleticism. Maybe he can. Maybe it looks different against NBA talent.
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The best thing about him is that he plays like he is athletic compared to other similar players in his archetype. Connaughton jumped out the gym at the combine, but all that dude does is shoot. Donte actually does use his athletic ability in-game fairly well. I think when you are that size is hard to consistently show it off, especially in the college game. He is small, but he has good size for a PG. If he plays with Rubio, Mitchell, or Exum he can defend the smaller player of the two guards.

I'm not as against draft him as I was when it was first getting hyped up. I can see the positives of it. Like his ceiling role could be similar to what Eric Gordon has been the last few years in the league? They tested out nearly the exact same athletically, but Gordon is a little longer. Obviously Gordon was more talented and explosive coming out, but injuries zapped him of a lot of that.
 
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The best thing about him is that he plays like he is athletic compared to other similar players in his archetype. Connaughton jumped out the gym at the combine, but all that dude does is shoot. Donte actually does use his athletic ability in-game fairly well. I think when you are that size is hard to consistently show it off, especially in the college game. He is small, but he has good size for a PG. If he plays with Rubio, Mitchell, or Exum he can defend the smaller player of the two guards.

I'm not as against draft him as I was when it was first getting hyped up. I can see the positives of it. Like his ceiling role could be similar to what Eric Gordon has been the last few years in the league? They tested out nearly the exact same athletically, but Gordon is a little longer. Obviously Gordon was more talented and explosive coming out, but injuries zapped him of a lot of that.
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@Gas too.

One thing I remember hearing about guards years ago, was that in college, their athleticism in the halfcourt set, may not stand out because the three-point line is so short, and therefore the defenders are much more tightly clustered then they will be in the NBA. In college, once a guy tries to blow by, it's easier for a defender on the wing to sort of step in and help out, or the defender in the post to challenge a shot. In the NBA, at 23-24 feet out, a guard will have more room to maneuver and another step or two to sort of get by a guy in the NBA. The court is not only deeper but wider in that sense, so help defenders on the wings can't easily as step over to help either. Knowing that, these guards, upon driving, can also take slightly different angles, thus going a little wider at times as well.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
@Gas too.

One thing I remember hearing about guards years ago, was that in college, their athleticism in the halfcourt set, may not stand out because the three-point line is so short, and therefore the defenders are much more tightly clustered then they will be in the NBA. In college, once a guy tries to blow by, it's easier for a defender on the wing to sort of step in and help out, or the defender in the post to challenge a shot. In the NBA, at 23-24 feet out, a guard will have more room to maneuver and another step or two to sort of get by a guy in the NBA. The court is not only deeper but wider in that sense, so help defenders on the wings can't easily as step over to help either. Knowing that, these guards, upon driving, can also take slightly different angles, thus going a little wider at times as well.
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Ya, that is a good point. Its why I said maybe it will look different against the NBA. People usually think the NBA gets more difficult for a player, but sometimes its the opposite. I think we saw a little bit of that with Donovan this year.

However, I still dont see sign of a guy with great handles in Donte. Just pretty average. So I dont see him being a great penetrator in the NBA. He is probably going to be more of a 3 and D guy. Wi Donovan you could see he had those handles in the college game. As soon as I scouted Donovan I knew that was going to translate. I didnt spend much time scouting or on this board last year so I didnt get my two cents in.

To give an example this year of a guy who I believe will translate this year and be a really good player. That will be Collin Sexton. A lot of mocks have him going around 9 or 10. I think people will look back later and see he should have been drafted higher. He could easily be a top 3 player or even the best player from the draft. The biggest reason why is he has great handles. He can get to where he wants on the court. He will look better in the NBA I think.
 
What impressed me about Donte watching him in the combine scrimmage was he willingness to mix it up and go after rebounds. One game he had like 12-13 rebounds. He also seems to be able to take guys to the hoop and finish. I could see him and Dante on the second unit causing problems for other teams. I would be fine if the Jazz took him at 21. I like a lot of guys in this draft. I think it is a deep draft. Okobo, Robinson, Huerter, Donte, KDP are just a few of the players i like. I would love a Huerter at 21 and Carter with a second round pick. Just would have to move up to get Carter but I believe he can be a solid backup in this league. He is a stud defender too.
 
One of my relatives is a huge Maryland fan. Said Huerter stinks on d and is raw and basically fine if we just want a guy to come in and shoot the 3. Sort of reminds me of that elite 3 point shooter about 5-7 years ago. Forget his name. He bounced around a bunch. Was on the Nets a couple years.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
One of my relatives is a huge Maryland fan. Said Huerter stinks on d and is raw and basically fine if we just want a guy to come in and shoot the 3. Sort of reminds me of that elite 3 point shooter about 5-7 years ago. Forget his name. He bounced around a bunch. Was on the Nets a couple years.
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Oh that guy. Yep
 
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