Jazz 2017/18 Playoff Bus! All Aboard!

[NUMBERICA]

Agree. It ignores one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, possibly the best man on man perimeter defender in the league and another stud defensive big.

Yes, Snyder has them clicking and playing Jazz ball. But bringing out the best in his players isn’t over achieving anymore. It’s the norm.

Jazz are 1, 2 at most, acquisitions from being a contender.

At least one all-star caliber player away. Those players don't just appear, especially for teams that are capped out (the Jazz will be if they keep everyone), or just are reluctant to make moves.

This window will be closing before we know it. It's fine if this team isn't a real contender, and if the Jazz "let the cake bake" that's what's going to happen.

 

[fishonjazz]

At least one all-star caliber player away. Those players don't just appear.

Mitchell and gobert kind of just appeared. So in fact, sometimes they do. I believe in DL and Quin. Also believe that Mitchell and gobert will be players that all stars want to play with. Mitchell is going to develop strong friendships with star players..... might already have some relationships with some stars by the way they all line up to talk to him after games.

 

[NUMBERICA]

There's plenty of room for optimism, but being an all-star away is every team. In other words, they're pretty far.

Sorry I said your mom(s) is fat.

 

[Miggs]

Yep, I agree.
Plus two other rookies (Bradley and O’Neal)

One of our issues will be Ingles' age. He has what, maybe 2-4 years of high quality play left in him? And he's an underrated piece to how good this team is.

Man, I'd love Mikal Bridges to fall and for us to be able to move up to get him. If we can do so for Miles, I guess you consider doing it, but I really don't like him. Think his ego is 5x the size of what he brings to the court too.

 

[Miggs]

There's plenty of room for optimism, but being an all-star away is every team. In other words, they're pretty far.

Sorry I said your mom(s) is fat.

Numb's right. Look at the Pels. If Cousins comes back and they retain Mirotic, and they just need an all-star 3 to become legit. If the Blazers were to get a really good 3 or 4, same thing. Like he said, many (most?) teams work this way.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Mitchell and gobert kind of just appeared. So in fact, sometimes they do. I believe in DL and Quin. Also believe that Mitchell and gobert will be players that all stars want to play with. Mitchell is going to develop strong friendships with star players..... might already have some relationships with some stars by the way they all line up to talk to him after games.

Star players? How and why do the Jazz get one of those if we're so set?

All I am saying is we're not there (and it's harder to acquire talent when your team is already good). And to look at likelihoods. To think that most 27th and 13th picks turn into Gobert and Mitchell is absurd at best.

We're not there, and there's no cake if the Jazz need to add an all-star.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'll say this; the Jazz are a 2-way all-star at the 4 away from contention. I understand that is a tall order, and I am prepared to shake the roster up to get that player.

I have faith in the organization to find diamonds in the rough to fill out the roster like they've been doing for years.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Yamers gets the Jazzfanz award for consistently highest blood pressure. We shall call it the perpetual Yamers Exploding Aneurysm Cup

He'll probably call me an idiot for saying it, but it's not a runaway. TheeJazzFan is definitely in this competition.

 

[Miggs]

I'll say this; the Jazz are a 2-way all-star at the 4 away from contention. I understand that is a tall order, and I am prepared to shake the roster up to get that player.

I have faith in the organization to find diamonds in the rough to fill out the roster like they've been doing for years.

Draymond? He has two years left.

 

[FarrakhanJazzFan]

If the Jazz end up at 49-33 or 48-34, I don't see any scenario where Utah doesn't have to play OKC. In a three and four way tiebreakers involving Portland and OKC, OKC comes out on bottom every time because they're 0-4 against Portland and only 2-2 against the Spurs and 1-2 against the Pelicans. There's a couple scenarios where the Jazz still end up at the 3 seed even if they drop a game and beat Portland, but OKC still lingers at #6. If there's a 3-way tie with Utah, OKC and NO/SA, Utah is at #5 and OKC at #4. Unless the Jazz finish 47-35, OKC is by far the most likely opponent. This is all assuming OKC wins their last two games, I think that's a really solid assumption.

The only scenario I see where we don't play OKC (if we end up with 49 wins) is if NO loses to the Clippers and then beats San Antonio. At that point we would play either Minnesota or New Orleans depending on what happens with Denver's last two games.

OKC loses a ton of tiebreakers vs San Antonio, New Orleans and Portland. That gets flipped around with three way tiebreakers that involve Utah instead of Portland.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Question: If the Jazz get the 3rd seed, will they be the first team in NBA history to have no selected All-Stars in that year to be ranked that highly?

 

[Miggs]

Question: If the Jazz get the 3rd seed, will they be the first team in NBA history to have no selected All-Stars in that year to be ranked that highly?

I highly doubt it. It’s probably happened a handful or two of times.

 

[fishonjazz]

Star players? How and why do the Jazz get one of those if we're so set?

All I am saying is we're not there (and it's harder to acquire talent when your team is already good). And to look at likelihoods. To think that most 27th and 13th picks turn into Gobert and Mitchell is absurd at best.

We're not there, and there's no cake if the Jazz need to add an all-star.

I agreed that we are not there. Where I disagree is saying that we are far away. Getting a Lebron, harden, steph, etc is the hardest part of being a contender. I believe we already have that player so the hardest part is done. Then you need a couple other stars. Gobert is definitely one. Need a good coach/system. Got that. We have most of the ingredients necessary. We are already a top 5/6/7 team in the league with our 2 best players till getting better.
I think we are closer than you. Agree to disagree. (Would be funny if we got to the conference finals this year and you still didn’t think we were close)

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If the Jazz end up at 49-33 or 48-34, I don't see any scenario where Utah doesn't have to play OKC. In a three and four way tiebreakers involving Portland and OKC, OKC comes out on bottom every time because they're 0-4 against Portland and only 2-2 against the Spurs and 1-2 against the Pelicans. There's a couple scenarios where the Jazz still end up at the 3 seed even if they drop a game and beat Portland, but OKC still lingers at #6. If there's a 3-way tie with Utah, OKC and NO/SA, Utah is at #5 and OKC at #4. Unless the Jazz finish 47-35, OKC is by far the most likely opponent. This is all assuming OKC wins their last two games, I think that's a really solid assumption.

The only scenario I see where we don't play OKC (if we end up with 49 wins) is if NO loses to the Clippers and then beats San Antonio. At that point we would play either Minnesota or New Orleans depending on what happens with Denver's last two games.

OKC loses a ton of tiebreakers vs San Antonio, New Orleans and Portland. That gets flipped around with three way tiebreakers that involve Utah instead of Portland.

I agree with this. If the Jazz win out and get the 3 seed, Portland drops to 4, SA or NOLA ends up in a tie with OKC, wins the tie-breaker and drops OKC to 6th.

If Utah loses a game and falls into a tie with OKC and either SA or NOLA, OKC will be 4th, the Jazz 5th and the other team 6th due to tie-breakers.

The only other scenario is that Utah loses two games, falls below OKC and either SA or NOLA, and takes the 6th seed, playing Podtland in the first round.

Again, this assumes OKC wins its final two games. Would be nice if Miami bears them.

So the likely scenarios are:

- Jazz (3) have home court against OKC (6)
- Jazz (5) open at OKC (4)
- Jazz (6) open at Portland (3)

...unless OKC loses another game.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

To be a real contender, the Jazz need another 30-pt scorer at one of the forward positions. The Ingles/Crowder/Favors rotation doesn't make us a contender. Plus, we're likely going to lose Favors in the offseason.

 

[radiohegel]

This season has been bonkers. Regardless of what happens, I feel like we're going to be talking about this year for a long time.

 

[LifeOnaPlate]

Tony Jones believes Exum may very well be our third star, with Mitchell and Gobert.

 

[Stoked]

To be a real contender, the Jazz need another 30-pt scorer at one of the forward positions. The Ingles/Crowder/Favors rotation doesn't make us a contender. Plus, we're likely going to lose Favors in the offseason.

A 30 ppl scorer lol. There is only 1 of those in the entire NBA and he isn’t a forward. The Beard is the only 30 point scorer in the entire league.

Did you mean 20 Ppg?

 

[LifeOnaPlate]

As an aside, I got to take a pic with AB after the Clippers game, a prize for doing the selfie night challenge, and he was extremely kind and cool to everyone. I really want that dude to find a great place to play if it's not in Utah.

 

[homeytennis]

Antonio Blakeney Windy City Bulls. He averaged over 30 this year.