Two of those picks were acquired... not trying to argue but just making a note.
I mean, Nate's post was an argument against tanking, not against accumulating picks.
I don't care about the rest of the NBA, just the Jazz. It's the only team I really watch. I've also seen teams like the Kings have multiple high draft picks and not do anything with them, and teams like the 76ers who did this route and are still a 2nd round exit.
Don't think Miami is ever in real contention for DM. It's one of those Ainge's tricks to leverage against Knicks. "We will trade DM to Miami if you don't give in to our demand".
The Jazz aren't trying to get scrubs. They are trying to get the best young players they can get along with picks.
I hope they are, and if they do it'll make them worth watching. Like even if the Jazz end up sucking next year, which seems likely, they'll be worth watching if there's a player or two that gives some hope for the next season and to watch their progress.
For sure. But that is why we should focus on the quality of the picks (unprotected being higher quality) over quantity. Just like OKC did this year though... you can mash a few picks together to get a lotto pick in some years if there is someone you like. Its also quite easy to find a team that will give you a first next year for a first this year.
Nothing specific. Just heard Miami are still happening and it involves at least one other team. Sounds like a lot is up in the air. That's about all the info I received, and probably won't get more any time soon. Gut feeling/speculation is the NY trade may still happen, but with Miami potentially figuring out how to get a 3rd team involved, the Jazz may go that route, or use it as leverage between NY and Miami.
Drafting player is more than just luck though. Having good eyes for talent definitely gives you the edge over GMs who are bad at scouting and I see Ainge as one of the best in the business. I mean he wasn't just "lucky" to draft Tatum. He wanted Tatum when everyone said he should have drafted Fultz.
It will be interesting to see how OKC pivots in the next couple of years. They are certainly in position to both acquire win now pieces while keeping their development program going. Yeah, probably shouldn't worry too much about too many picks.
you still have to be competent but there is a world where Philly takes Tatum instead of Fultz and Kings take Luka instead of Bagley. Accumulating a lot of picks and tanking stacks the deck to help when you miss on a few picks or make bad deals. NBA titles are won with top talent and top talent is largely found at the top of the draft (not exclusively) for us we have to build through the draft and trades so getting as many picks as possible is critical.
Our picks would also have more value than OKC's. Most of the picks they got are protected... getting Minny and NYK picks unprotected dramatically improves the value of the picks.
True. Perhaps I should clarify my thoughts here. I have no issues with them accumulating as many picks as possible, but I don't want it at the expense of them getting some talent with some known upside. For the very least that I want a reason to watch this team next season. If the Mitchell trade is like the Gobert trade, with a lot of picks and a Vanderbilt type player....yay, great for the tank and all but I have no interest in watching this team. I'll definitely be looking forward to next June, but I'll have about 10 months to do something else with my life. And this is coming from someone who has watched damn near 82 regular season Jazz games a year for the past 20 years. I enjoy watching the Jazz, and I don't want to give that up, but ultimately the product has to be at least interesting in one way or the other to watch.
Yeah I think Toppin and IQ would make the team at least interesting. Can't get excited about Bolmaro, Kessler, Beasley, Vando... but sometimes a young guy surprises and is fun.
