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Jazz Free Agency Summer of 2018

I'd rather take my chances on the possibility of signing a big time free agent by letting Favors go. Signing Favors long-term kills the options we have to improve the team and basically says we're just happy to be 3/4/5 in the west every year.
 
I’m reading all these names people are throwing out there and I’m frankly just not interested.

Jazz have the role players they need. Now it’s time to strike. Go after that big name. Sell the pair of Gobert and Mitchell, the player oriented coaching staff, the strong FO commitment to winning, how they watch and care for their players families, the rabid fan base...

Either sign a big name like Paul George or bring back this exact same team (Sign Exum and sign Favors to a 1 year deal). Then try again next year for the next group of big names. It’s time to compete as a true contender.

A Beverly or a Harris won’t push us past the Rockets or Warriors. But a George might.
 
you really think they'd move the meter ??

I think they could, especially Middleton or Harris. They could give us a reliable second scorer to go along with Mitchell. They both shoot around 40 percent from 3 and would give us great spacing on offense. I would definitely rather bring one of them in than sign Favors to a multiyear deal and keep him as our starting 4 for the foreseeable future.
 
I'd rather take my chances on the possibility of signing a big time free agent by letting Favors go. Signing Favors long-term kills the options we have to improve the team and basically says we're just happy to be 3/4/5 in the west every year.

or .. you could let go a really good player who can do a lot of good things for you for some vague notion of a marquee free agent signing that probably won't ever happen
 
God I wish Favors would agree to be a nicely paid backup center and ‘certain lineups’ guy. I’d give the dude 5 years if if was only $8 million annually. Become a lifer who is modestly paid. Not a bad end for Favors career, he’s smart, won’t go broke, still make millions, and he knows he’d be happy in Utah. Nothing would make me happier than Favors coming along for the championship quest. But that quest would be massively held back if you keep trying to make Favors a 4 and pay him to be a high end starter. $15 million? I mean if no one ends up coming I’d give him that for a year I guess. But I’d want that cap space in 2019. If Favors can get a multi year deal where he sucks up 15% of all the free agency money available in the whole league then he should go for it.
Both otherwise come anchor the defense in Rudy’s bench minutes, be ready if there is an injury, and start working on your bench hype celebrations. We goin places
 
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you really think they'd move the meter ??
Those guys are all about the same tier as Favors. I guess its arguable they fit in better because they are better shooters but they also all lack rim protection and rebounding that makes Favors good for us. Niko is probably the only one I would trade Favors for if contracts were all equal. Harris I would have to think more about.
 
or .. you could let go a really good player who can do a lot of good things for you for some vague notion of a marquee free agent signing that probably won't ever happen

I understand your point of view. I just always prefer the route that gives us the best chance to make the moves that will lead to winning a title. That's the goal. If we re-sign Favors long-term we'll be okay. We'll be very competitive. But we'll probably never get over the hump. We won't ever have the cap space to attract a big fish because once Favors deal expires we'll be paying Donovan big money. We'd be totally reliant on internal develpment and drafting to get us a chip.

I honestly believe that Donovan can recruit a big fish. Players really like him and they are going to want to play with him.
 
God I wish Favors would agree to be a nicely paid backup center and ‘certain lineups’ guy. I’d give the dude 5 years if if was only $8 million annually. Become a lifer who is modestly paid. Not a bad end for Favors career, he’s smart, won’t go broke, still make millions, and he knows he’d be happy in Utah. Nothing would make me happier than Favors coming along for the championship quest. But that quest would be massively held back if you keep trying to make Favors a 4 and pay him to be a high end starter. $15 million? I mean if no one ends up coming I’d give him that for a year I guess. But I’d want that cap space in 2019. If Favors can get a multi year deal where he sucks up 15% of all the free agency money available in the whole league then he should go for it.
Both otherwise come anchor the offense in Rudy’s bench minutes, be ready if there is an injury, and start working on your bench hype celebrations. We goin places
I agree with this. Either get Favors on a good deal or get him on a 1 year deal or 1 and 1 with a team option and over pay him. It would be best if it was a good deal that started higher and went down by as much is allowed each year. I dont know all the rules on that.
 
Those guys are all about the same tier as Favors. I guess its arguable they fit in better because they are better shooters but they also all lack rim protection and rebounding that makes Favors good for us. Niko is probably the only one I would trade Favors for if contracts were all equal. Harris I would have to think more about.

i haven't seen him play heaps but if Harris is a decent shooter and defender he holds some appeal.
 
A Beverly or a Harris won’t push us past the Rockets or Warriors. But a George might.
I think that team can beat GSW.

Rubio / Beverley / Exum
Mitchell / Royce / Allen
Ingles / Crowder / Thabo
Harris / Jerebko
Gobert / Udoh
 
i haven't seen him play heaps but if Harris is a decent shooter and defender he holds some appeal.
He has been a good 3 point shooter over the last 3 years. I dont see the good defense but I have not watched a ton on him. He isnt a good rebounder and there are some other things I dont like about him. But if we lost Favors he would be a decent option to pursue. I would prefer Gordon or even Jabari over him personally but they are probably not attainable by us either.
 
you really think they'd move the meter ??

I do because of the effect floor stretching bigs can have... you look at RPM for forwards and small forwards and you see superstars at the top... superstars and guys like Olynyk, Mirotic, Aminu, Marvin Williams on the PF list... and on the SF list you see guys like Ariza, Carroll, Middleton, Tucker and a lot of guys that play small ball 4. Jared Dudley for years was up there... average dude, but can play small ball 4 and okayish defense.

That space provided by shooting bigs provides crazy amounts of benefit. When you add the fact we have a rim roller that creates gravity and a PG who lacks gravity at times and that space can be huge.

It's a minor miracle that we figured out how to survive on offense with Rubio, Rudy, and Favs on the floor... coaching staff and players figured it out. Imagine what they can do when they don't have the space constraints.

That's my theory anyway.
 
I think that team can beat GSW.

Rubio / Beverley / Exum
Mitchell / Royce / Allen
Ingles / Crowder / Thabo
Harris / Jerebko
Gobert / Udoh

Will need an ankle sprain... but almost every team needs GS to have an ankle sprain.
 
I think that team can beat GSW.

Rubio / Beverley / Exum
Mitchell / Royce / Allen
Ingles / Crowder / Thabo
Harris / Jerebko
Gobert / Udoh
If Durant or Curry is hurt I agree. Or if Exum or Royce take a big jump and Mitchell, Rubio and Gobert keep improving.
 
I think that team can beat GSW.

Rubio / Beverley / Exum
Mitchell / Royce / Allen
Ingles / Crowder / Thabo
Harris / Jerebko
Gobert / Udoh

I'm not sure this team would beat Golden State, but it would come a hell of a lot closer than our current roster.
 
Just look at the Charlotte/Brooklyn trade. Guys, a team just took $17 million in 2019 to avoid $7 million in 2018/19 salary so they could avoid twice that in luxury. The luxury tax is massive for some of these teams. There is no telling what we could get if we had Burks + $10 million in cap space. Considering we would be one of 3 teams in the entire league with that type of asset, we could get a massive future asset for our troubles.
 
Actually, I would try Udoh as our Durant stopper.
 
Just look at the Charlotte/Brooklyn trade. Guys, a team just took $17 million in 2019 to avoid $7 million in 2018/19 salary so they could avoid twice that in luxury. The luxury tax is massive for some of these teams. There is no telling what we could get if we had Burks + $10 million in cap space. Considering we would be one of 3 teams in the entire league with that type of asset, we could get a massive future asset for our troubles.

Who picked up an all-star level player in that Charlotte Brooklyn trade? Or even a player near Favors level?
 
Its an asset. Charlotte gave up a major asset (2019 cap space) in order to save luxury money.

We aren't going to get a current all star with our space. However, we can get an asset which could turn into one.

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