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Jazz have "zeroed in" on Jabari Parker

cowhide said:
I am already overloaded with draft rumors. I just read an article about Randle's workout in LA. Laker front office were cooing all over Randle or at least that is what the reporter was writing. I know GMs lie a lot around draft time but the media certainly follows suit. I won't believe anything until I here the Jazz call out a players name and then the draft is finished.

At this point I really don't know who the Jazz are going to pick. I think it has a better chance of being from the Gordon, Vonleh, Exum, Smart or Randle group (tier2). I think the Jazz are going to get a really good player regardless and I wouldn't be surprise if one or two of the second tier guys have just as good or better careers as the top 3.
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I agree. The more I read about this rumor and that... the less interested I am with the top 3. Let's just take bpa at 5 and 23.

My thoughts are that we don't need a point guard nearly as bad as we need a vonleh type shooting big guy or ultra athletic big guy like Gordon. then with the second pick take a guy with Korver type skills.
 
Vermin said:
I think your proclamation that Gobert is the best defensive player on our team in 9 minutes of play is as outlandish as most everything else that drips from your mouth.
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I tried PM'ing you to hash out whatever problem you obviously have with me, yet you still continue to follow me around.

I didn't say he was the best. You struggle with subtlety and context, don't you? There are courses you can take for your poor reading comprehension and assimilation of arguments.

You make a bunch of ruckus every time:
A. Kanter is mentioned as being good, or even that he should be kept.
B. someone says Favors isn't the end-all, be-all of our team's defensive future. Defense is largely a team concept.

You read too much into things, and rarely are your takeaways accurate. Then you start your tantrums and following with negs for a week.

Stop following my posts. Please. If I bother you, just put me on ignore.
 
Says the guy who continually quotes my post. You don't want to interact with me, don't quote my posts. I never search you out. Move on, go to bed, maybe get a glass of milk to help you calm down.
 
heyhey said:
It depends on everything involved in the trade. I think they look at the total value of the scenario.

One guy won't make the Jazz contenders. We are looking for 3 studs. DL won't jeopardize his ability to make his next move by overpaying on his first.
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This.
 
Sexual Favors said:
How the **** is that a win win? It looks to me like we'd be getting screwed. Just like w/ Burke, we'd be giving up a lot of assets for an overrated player. Jabari is not Lebron, Pierce or Melo. He is Jabari ****ing Parker. A 19 yr old kid who won state a couple of years in HS, and averaged 19 pts his one and only college season. Un-****ing-proven! He doesn't even have the upside that some of the others in this draft have. Exum has higher upside than him, and we're supposed to get excited because people are talking giving up Exum, Burks, and really good picks we bled for, just to nab him? If this is really the plan, DL is clearly not the man I thought he was. His value is being inflated by his religion, and not his skill set.
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I'm not an expert of these guys but a player doesn't need to be fully proven statistically to be a high prospect in the draft. Kanter -you know the guy - has his jersey number 0 because he was "zero and done". But has gone 3 anyways. Was a gamble, and unlike most here thinks, it turned up pretty good. Now the Jazz can either keep him if they believe he can play defense and keep developing or they can sell him to another who needs inside scoring from a pivot.

As for Jabari, I think his BBIQ is very high, his moves, ball handling, vibe, shooting, capability to create for himself and others is already there. Uses the court like an ocean and he is an agile dolphin in it goin' wherever he wants while handling the ball. As I said I'm not the expert on the draftees. I know as much as the next guy about them, a few games they've played, highlights, articles, draft reports etc. But from where I stand I see, Jabari is the MVP of this draft. And as a matter of fact, I have not seen anything special about Dante Exum to get thrilled about picking him.

Doublea said:
at least we aren't this delusional https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1327752&sid=8c46a23f3d8b3a5d4e8d645e6e25228a
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Local fanbase is local. I'm pretty sure this is the majority of the fans of the NBA teams if you count them one by one.
 
And about the info at the OP; may I kindly ask the **** ?!?

How do you give up on Burks? He is the guy doing Jordan moves diving like a Kamikaze suicide plane since he has arrived. I don't want to believe the Jazz would be willing to trade Burks; before Enes, before Burke, before Gordon Pay-me-more-ward.
 
addictionary said:
I'm not an expert of these guys but a player doesn't need to be fully proven statistically to be a high prospect in the draft. Kanter -you know the guy - has his jersey number 0 because he was "zero and done". But has gone 3 anyways. Was a gamble, and unlike most here thinks, it turned up pretty good. Now the Jazz can either keep him if they believe he can play defense and keep developing or they can sell him to another who needs inside scoring from a pivot.

As for Jabari, I think his BBIQ is very high, his moves, ball handling, vibe, shooting, capability to create for himself and others is already there. Uses the court like an ocean and he is an agile dolphin in it goin' wherever he wants while handling the ball. As I said I'm not the expert on the draftees. I know as much as the next guy about them, a few games they've played, highlights, articles, draft reports etc. But from where I stand I see, Jabari is the MVP of this draft. And as a matter of fact, I have not seen anything special about Dante Exum to get thrilled about picking him.




Local fanbase is local. I'm pretty sure this is the majority of the fans of the NBA teams if you count them one by one.
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Never said Jabari wasn't a great prospect, or that he wouldn't be a great player. I would be thrilled to have him on our team. My issue is with the proposed package, as I feel it is too much considering how deep this draft is, where we are, hiw good burks could be, and how good that 2017 pick could be. I feel like #5 and a player, or #5, #23, and a future first should be enough for Parker. Not all of it. Anymore, and I feel like we'd be burning assets just to burn them. As good as Jabari is, he still has a lot to learn before he's leading us to championships (defense, passing, pace, shot selection, and conditioning to name a few).
 
I feel like 5,23, and a future first is enough for parker. maybe burks but that will be too much for us to give
 
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Sexual Favors said:
How the **** is that a win win? It looks to me like we'd be getting screwed. Just like w/ Burke, we'd be giving up a lot of assets for an overrated player. Jabari is not Lebron, Pierce or Melo. He is Jabari ****ing Parker. A 19 yr old kid who won state a couple of years in HS, and averaged 19 pts his one and only college season. Un-****ing-proven! He doesn't even have the upside that some of the others in this draft have. Exum has higher upside than him, and we're supposed to get excited because people are talking giving up Exum, Burks, and really good picks we bled for, just to nab him? If this is really the plan, DL is clearly not the man I thought he was. His value is being inflated by his religion, and not his skill set.
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He's not Lebron. This is true.

However I think he's better than Melo, and could be as good as Pierce.

He's a future multiple time allstar, and someone to build around. This is what we are arguing. Just how good he'll be.
 
spycam1 said:
They should have zeroed in on him 10 months ago and tanked harder.
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Spycam wins the thread.



Just had a funny thought, remember when Burke was complaining about fans wanting the team to lose? Because of his game winner against Orlando it might turn out that the Jazz draft a PG and he's replaced as a starter within his first three years in the league.

If the Jazz lose more then they are looking at a big and two wings. Instead it's looking like the Jazz will be choosing between two PG's.

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Scorpjazz said:
I love the idea of getting Parker, BUT if we really could get at Exum at 5 and not give anything up, that is tempting. Not a fan of any of the other possibles at 5 though....I think Exum could be the best player in this draft when all is said and done...
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I agree with Scorpjazz.

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Listening to the Locke/Chad Ford podcast. They are saying Jabari is Glenn Robinson.


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Lattimer said:
Listening to the Locke/Chad Ford podcast. They are saying Jabari is Glenn Robinson.


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Anyone else remember when the Bucks had GR, Alien, and Ray Allen?

Offensively, that team was fun to watch. They couldn't do anything else doe...
 
I agree on the Pierce comparison. And I think Paul Pierce is an underrated player (especially the Paul Pierce of a few years ago and prior).



Revolution 9 said:
He's not Lebron. This is true.

However I think he's better than Melo, and could be as good as Pierce.

He's a future multiple time allstar, and someone to build around. This is what we are arguing. Just how good he'll be.
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Revolution 9 said:
He's not Lebron. This is true.

However I think he's better than Melo, and could be as good as Pierce.

He's a future multiple time allstar, and someone to build around. This is what we are arguing. Just how good he'll be.
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in my world, pierce isn't better than melo, but that's a gen NBA discussion...

if parker is better than melo, then there's no way the jazz can give up too much for such a player.

what's the deal anyways? Burks, 5 and Gsw '17? def not too much imo and another team will probably up the ante.
 
I'm not sure that Jabari is better than Melo - Melo as a frosh at Syracuse was spectacular. But even if he's on par with Melo, that says a lot.
 
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