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Jazz have "zeroed in" on Jabari Parker

He is a smarter Melo with less athleticism.

His lateral athleticism is a very big issues though. He needs to keep his weight around 220-225. Drop that chubby weight he gained.
Needs to be quicker to play the 3 position.
I am still worried about him being able to get by his player in the NBA. Didn't seem like it was easy in college to get by his man.
And being a 4 won't work for very long. Too much of a tweener unless he can get his weight down.
 
Melo a beast. Jabari won't be better than melo. Y'all are trippin

Would def trade up for him though
 
Twin Towers said:
He is a smarter Melo with less athleticism.

His lateral athleticism is a very big issues though. He needs to keep his weight around 220-225. Drop that chubby weight he gained.
Needs to be quicker to play the 3 position.
I am still worried about him being able to get by his player in the NBA. Didn't seem like it was easy in college to get by his man.
And being a 4 won't work for very long. Too much of a tweener unless he can get his weight down.
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What has he shown that makes him smarter than Melo?

If you hate Melo, you can't like Jabari, unless you admit that not liking Melo is solely based on his off-court personality.
 
From all the reports it sounds like:

Milwaukee wants Exum so they can move Knight to SG
Philly wants Wiggins to pair with Noel and MCW
Orlando wants Smart to pair with Oladipo in the backcourt
Utah wants Jabari to team up with a talented young core (and of course the fanfare of bringing a Mormon player to Utah).

Assuming this is all accurate, why not have a four team trade to ensure every team gets who they want.

Jazz trade: #5, #23, #35 for #3(Parker) and Mayo or Ilyasova.

Orlando Trades # 4 for #5 (Smart), #35, and #48. They get their guy plus a couple 2nd rounders to fill out their bench or stash in Europe for a year or two.

Philly trades #3 and #32 for #2 (Wiggins). They get the player they have wanted and only have to give up the #32 to ensure they get him. Since they still would have 4 2nd rounders, giving up #32 shouldn't be a big deal.

Milwaukee trades #2, #48 and Mayo or Ilyasova for #4 (Exum), #23, and #32. They get the player they want, get rid of a bad contract, and get another 1st and early 2nd. If they are even considering Exum at 2, this is great value for them.
 
Stocker said:
From all the reports it sounds like:

Milwaukee wants Exum so they can move Knight to SG
Philly wants Wiggins to pair with Noel and MCW
Orlando wants Smart to pair with Oladipo in the backcourt
Utah wants Jabari to team up with a talented young core (and of course the fanfare of bringing a Mormon player to Utah).

Assuming this is all accurate, why not have a four team trade to ensure every team gets who they want.

Jazz trade: #5, #23, #35 for #3(Parker) and Mayo or Ilyasova.

Orlando Trades # 4 for #5 (Smart), #35, and #48. They get their guy plus a couple 2nd rounders to fill out their bench or stash in Europe for a year or two.

Philly trades #3 and #32 for #2 (Wiggins). They get the player they have wanted and only have to give up the #32 to ensure they get him. Since they still would have 4 2nd rounders, giving up #32 shouldn't be a big deal.

Milwaukee trades #2, #48 and Mayo or Ilyasova for #4 (Exum), #23, and #32. They get the player they want, get rid of a bad contract, and get another 1st and early 2nd. If they are even considering Exum at 2, this is great value for them.
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This would be incredible.
 
Stocker said:
From all the reports it sounds like:

Milwaukee wants Exum so they can move Knight to SG
Philly wants Wiggins to pair with Noel and MCW
Orlando wants Smart to pair with Oladipo in the backcourt
Utah wants Jabari to team up with a talented young core (and of course the fanfare of bringing a Mormon player to Utah).

Assuming this is all accurate, why not have a four team trade to ensure every team gets who they want.

Jazz trade: #5, #23, #35 for #3(Parker) and Mayo or Ilyasova.

Orlando Trades # 4 for #5 (Smart), #35, and #48. They get their guy plus a couple 2nd rounders to fill out their bench or stash in Europe for a year or two.

Philly trades #3 and #32 for #2 (Wiggins). They get the player they have wanted and only have to give up the #32 to ensure they get him. Since they still would have 4 2nd rounders, giving up #32 shouldn't be a big deal.

Milwaukee trades #2, #48 and Mayo or Ilyasova for #4 (Exum), #23, and #32. They get the player they want, get rid of a bad contract, and get another 1st and early 2nd. If they are even considering Exum at 2, this is great value for them.
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This is great.. Until Cleveland takes Wiggins or Parker at #1.
 
bigmike said:
I'm not sure that Jabari is better than Melo - Melo as a frosh at Syracuse was spectacular. But even if he's on par with Melo, that says a lot.
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I saw a lot of melo in college. he was good, but i like jabari's freshman game even more.

its not a case of jabari is good and melo is bad. i think its very slight, but i believe he is the better player, better motor, and will have the better career
 
Doublea said:
Chad Ford said that to trade for #2 the Jazz would probably have to start with the #5 and Favors.
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Been saying this. Been negged for it. He is our best player/prospect combo, is inked to a great deal, and offers MIL the rim protection they thought they had w/ Sanders.
 
I think Jabari COULD be better than Melo, and Pierce. But right now, he is still Jabari. Keep reason when talking about trades for him, or you might just sell your future.
 
Sexual Favors said:
Been saying this. Been negged for it. He is our best player/prospect combo, is inked to a great deal, and offers MIL the rim protection they thought they had w/ Sanders.
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Too much to give up. Parker, Wiggins and Embiid have done ZERO in the NBA. You trade picks and a very good player for established all-stars. I still maintain there just isn't that much difference between the top-3 and the next 3. This draft could very well turn out like 2010 at the top. Everyone was set on the top 5 of Wall, Turner, Favors, Johnson and Cousins. I remember KOC said he tried to trade up but the asking price was way too high to jump from 9 into the top-5 because those players were viewed as "can't-miss." Two have lived up to the hype; jury is still out on Favors. But Turner and Johnson have been HUGE disappointments.
 
Core4 said:
Too much to give up. Parker, Wiggins and Embiid have done ZERO in the NBA. You trade picks and a very good player for established all-stars.
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I tend to agree.

But, I am willing to trade, 5, and any player on our roster for Parker or Wiggins.

Think the package floating around earlier of 5, Burks (or other player), GSW 17, 23, and 35 was WAY too much.
 
Too much to give up?

Wake the **** up.

We aren't winning a championship or becoming elite any other way.

Go for the star or be content with being average.
 
Core4 said:
Too much to give up. Parker, Wiggins and Embiid have done ZERO in the NBA. You trade picks and a very good player for established all-stars. I still maintain there just isn't that much difference between the top-3 and the next 3. This draft could very well turn out like 2010 at the top. Everyone was set on the top 5 of Wall, Turner, Favors, Johnson and Cousins. I remember KOC said he tried to trade up but the asking price was way too high to jump from 9 into the top-5 because those players were viewed as "can't-miss." Two have lived up to the hype; jury is still out on Favors. But Turner and Johnson have been HUGE disappointments.
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Sanders was the best rim protector in the league his 3rd season and was a better defender than Favors. If you can iron him out mentally, is he not good enough to justify the trade?
 
Revolution 9 said:
Too much to give up?

Wake the **** up.

We aren't winning a championship or becoming elite any other way.

Go for the star or be content with being average.
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Exum, Vonleh, and Gordon all have star potential. All have better defensive potential, and athleticism.

Wake the **** up. We aren't drafting 8. We are at 5. Parker doesn't = automatic chip. You can't overspend for an unproven commodity.

We need a star. What if Parker busts? What if Burks becomes.a star? What if that GSW pick becomes a star? What if that player at 5 becomes a star? Etc.
 
Sexual Favors said:
Exum, Vonleh, and Gordon all have star potential. All have better defensive potential, and athleticism.

Wake the **** up. We aren't drafting 8. We are at 5. Parker doesn't = automatic chip. You can't overspend for an unproven commodity.

We need a star. What if Parker busts? What if Burks becomes.a star? What if that GSW pick becomes a star? Etc.
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Exum and Vonleh are huge long shots to be "stars". Jabari and Wiggins have a much better chance.

Again if you are comfortable being average, and hoping for a miracle then stay put.

but don't bitch and moan the next 4 years when we dont do anything special.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Exum and Vonleh are huge long shots to be "stars". Jabari and Wiggins have a much better chance.

Again if you are comfortable being average, and hoping for a miracle then stay put.

but don't bitch and moan the next 4 years when we dont do anything special.
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I agree that Parker is in the first tier, while Exum and Vonleh are in the second tier. But you are acting like Parker is a polished, title winning, NBA franchise player. He isn't.

He still has to:

Learn how to pass.
Take better shots.
Get better defensively
Play with more pace.
Get better conditioning.

There are still questions about his position. People say he is Melo, but Melo was quicker than him. If he is a 4, he is undersized. If he is a 3, he has great weight, but he's a little slow by NBA standards.

He has potential to be that great player. He isn't that great player.

Spending everything on him could just as easily condemn us to mediocrity. If we are talking about spending all of that listed in my previous post, it should at least be for Wiggins, who at least projects as a two-way player.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
@ addictionary


If Jabari is like an agile dolphin swimming in the ocean, then who are the "sharks" in this draft?
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jope said:
Sharks are scared of dolphins doe
[video=youtube_share;GmLYGzlPLj0]https://youtu.be/GmLYGzlPLj0
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the real question is who is the blue whale?




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