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Jazz may stand pat

From everything I've read is that AD wants Cuz back. You do whatever AD wants if your New Orleans. They don't have money to pay, Ad, Cuz, Holliday and Niko.

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nateboz said:
From everything I've read is that AD wants Cuz back. You do whatever AD wants if your New Orleans. They don't have money to pay, Ad, Cuz, Holliday and Niko.

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Yes and no... AD is on track to get the super megamax... which he can only get from NO... requesting a trade or signing elsewhere would cost him mucho dinero... he wants to win. I get the feeling NO is willing to bring Boogie back but not willing to get crazy. They have time to convince him Niko, Holiday, and AD is good enough if they add some support. They could sign and trade him, but my guess is Boogie has 50/50 chance at staying and AD will stay at least until he signs that contract.
 
I hope we don’t just stand pat. We need to be more aggressive than that. Get some future assets for the unguaranteeds... Jonas is replaceable... I like Thabo but we’ve very likely seen his best days as a jazzman already. We can replace a lot of what they bring. Keep Favs on a one year deal if nothing good comes but we shouldn’t settle for running it back.
 
If he's there, I want KBD. His size is just too tempting to pass up. A couple summers of P3 and working with the coaches, and the kid could be our Draymond, Durant, Lebron stopper. Maybe. Maybe?
 
After watching all these playoff games, I just don't see the reason to bring back Favors long term. We need more guys who can fluidly guard SG, SF and PF and guys who can pose a threat from 3. He has been an awesome Jazz man, but we have our big man and don't need to spend major money to back him up. In the playoffs, that's pretty much what Favors' role would be against these elite teams. And looking at what Boston and Philly will become, they are going to be stacked with wings who can switch, spread the floor, etc.

If our off-season is standing pat just to bring back Favors and Exum, it would be a major disappointment. Expecting a healthy Rubio to be the difference between us and the Warriors, Celtics and Philly is extremely risky. And considering our injury history, somebody will be hurt regardless.
 
How's this Caleb Martin kid and where is he projected to go? He had the best shuttle run time (by far) and the second best lane agility time. That has to help for switching and rotating on defense. Offensively, for Nevada last year, he shot 40.3% from three on 6.9 attempts per game, grabbed 5.4 rebounds, had 2.6 assists, and 1.3 steals. His wingspan and standing reach sort of stink though.
 
I think we may indeed stand pat at our draft spot or move up if a certain couple prospects drop ala Mitchell
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I hope we don’t just stand pat. We need to be more aggressive than that. Get some future assets for the unguaranteeds... Jonas is replaceable... I like Thabo but we’ve very likely seen his best days as a jazzman already. We can replace a lot of what they bring. Keep Favs on a one year deal if nothing good comes but we shouldn’t settle for running it back.
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While I agree Lindsey should try to improve the team, you act as if actions are unilateral. There's not a chance in hell Favors signs a one-year deal. He was risk averse when he signed his extension and took less money. I'll bet his injuries have made him more so. This is his chance to sign a contract somewhere for 4 yrs and ~ $55M-$60M. Believe me, he's not going to return for 1 yr.

And what, exactly, would we get for the non-guarantees? Who needs to dump salaries and what would they give up? Maybe NO to bring back Boogie. But do we want Hill on our books and maybe a 2nd rd pick? Jazz could buy a 2nd for a couple million if they really want. The Lakers maybe give up a minor piece to clear cap space. Also, we're not the only option around. Phoenix, Dallas, Chicago, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Sacramento (and maybe I've missed a few) all have plenty of cap room.

The expirings may have far more value at the trade deadline as teams decide to rebuild or prepare themselves for the free agent market of 2019.
 
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This is his chance to sign a contract somewhere for 4 yrs and ~ $55M-$60M.
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I don't think his market is that strong. If the Jazz don't want to commit $15 million a year to a guy that's mostly had bad wheels, is prone to sleep-walking, and has even publicly stated that his uptick in durability and production is due to a contract year, where is he getting that contract? This is a capped offseason, there is not a lot to go around.
 
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I don't think his market is that strong. If the Jazz don't want to commit $15 million a year to a guy that's mostly had bad wheels, is prone to sleep-walking, and has even publicly stated that his uptick in durability and production is due to a contract year, where is he getting that contract? This is a capped offseason, there is not a lot to go around.
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Really? I didn't see that quote. I did see him say he was finally healthy. There's plenty of cap space to go around. I see at least 10 teams that could offer Favs a sizeable contract. And all it takes is just one team. Now if you were to say the abundance of bigs in the draft may depress the market for Favs, I agree. That list of 10 teams might be cut in half. Still think his value is in the $13-$15m range.
 
Jack Strop said:
Really? I didn't see that quote. I did see him say he was finally healthy. There's plenty of cap space to go around. I see at least 10 teams that could offer Favs a sizeable contract. And all it takes is just one team. Now if you were to say the abundance of bigs in the draft may depress the market for Favs, I agree. That list of 10 teams might be cut in half. Still think his value is in the $13-$15m range.
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His value is what he can get... there are like 5 or 6 teams that can offer him what you are proposing and maybe 2 others that might do a sign and trade.

Most of the cap space teams aren’t looking for a big. If Phoenix takes Ayton Favs market does quick. It might be more prudent to take a one year 18M deal than to take full MLE from another team... I think there is a 10-20% chance he gets more than MLE. This market is going to shock some players... guys definitely worth more than the MLE are going to be disappointed when they only get those offers.
 
LoPo said:
After watching all these playoff games, I just don't see the reason to bring back Favors long term. We need more guys who can fluidly guard SG, SF and PF and guys who can pose a threat from 3. He has been an awesome Jazz man, but we have our big man and don't need to spend major money to back him up. In the playoffs, that's pretty much what Favors' role would be against these elite teams. And looking at what Boston and Philly will become, they are going to be stacked with wings who can switch, spread the floor, etc.
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I'm in complete agreement. I'll completely understand if we sign Favors for 1 year and then try and sign a big free agent like Harris, Middleton, Thompson, etc. next offseason, but I think signing Favs to a long term contract is a mistake and I'll be very disappointed if that happens. Our only objective should be trying to take that next step to be able to compete with the elite teams like Houston, G State and Boston, and a lineup with both Favors and Gobert is never going to work against those teams. If we use a lot of our future cap space on Favors and are stuck with him as our starting 4 for the next 3 or 4 years then I'm gonna be extremely disappointed.
 
Jingled said:
If we use a lot of our future cap space on Favors and are stuck with him as our starting 4 for the next 3 or 4 years then I'm gonna be extremely disappointed.
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Unless the move is to use the expirings of Burks, Jerbeko, Udoh and Sefolosha in a trade. Be realistic, Utah is NEVER going to sign Thompson. He's already talking about taking less to remain with GS.

Middleton, perhaps. But do you then move Mitchell to PG and not re-sign Rubio? I don't like Donovan as a full-time PG. He looked exhausted by the end of the playoffs. I think you preserve his energy by asking him to be a scorer, not a PG. I agree Favs and Gobert isn't an optimal pairing. But they really only have to play 12-15 mins together. And then you have one of the best backup C's in the league in the game when Gobert rests. Not to mention a damn good starter when Rudy misses games. Losing Favs will be a big blow if it happens. The dropoff from Favs to Udoh is HUGE for 15 mins/per game.

Feel free to bump this post when Lindsey makes a trade to acquire a significant player and doesn't do so via free agency. And I predict that trade occurs at the deadline next season, not this summer.
 
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Like I've said before, I want to keep Favors if we end up using those valuable non-guaranteed guys in a deal. To me, that's perfection and keeping the best players possible.
 
Jack Strop said:
Really? I didn't see that quote. I did see him say he was finally healthy. There's plenty of cap space to go around. I see at least 10 teams that could offer Favs a sizeable contract. And all it takes is just one team. Now if you were to say the abundance of bigs in the draft may depress the market for Favs, I agree. That list of 10 teams might be cut in half. Still think his value is in the $13-$15m range.
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I can't find it, it was on the radio. But he definitely said it.
 
Why would we need to move Mitchell to point guard and not re-sign Rubio if we sign Middleton? I think we should have enough money next offseason to sign them both.
 
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