I never said people aren't entitled to their opinions, but I actually think it's kind of dumb to think that anyone on this board knows more about the prospects than DL and the Jazz coaching and scouting staffs. They attend countless games, watch thousands and thousands of hours of film, and interact directly with coaches and players. Most of the people on this board form their opinions from watching highlights before the draft. Of course DL knows Okobo. Doesn't mean they always get it right, but I think they are easily the most informed. They also have to commit to just ONE guy. It's a little easier to get it right when you get to choose 4 or 5 like most of us do.
Jazz select Grayson Allen at 21
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PG_AB knows every 12 year old who plays basketball anywhere in the western hemisphere. Do the Jazz FO and scouts?
Didn't think so.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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There is no where you can run or hide, he will find you
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RandyForRubio
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Don’t forget he has the ability to play in the league, if he wanted to.
seattlejazzfan
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Any time your team drafts a guard or wing and you think he sucks, you always have hope that NBA spacing will be great for his game.
That's how I'm crying myself to sleep at night.
That's how I'm crying myself to sleep at night.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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WTH happened to Cy? Haven’t seen him post in what seems like days
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Quit being a baby?
He trolled us all with wanting Allen that when it actually happened he had a mental collapse, realizing that his contrarian natural had finally come back on him and now he’s contemplating following LiAngelo on the Shanghai Sharks.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Now that was funny as hell, but seriously where is he?
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seattlejazzfan
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I mean, you probably should for those around you, but i don't know you, so don't really give a ****.
If it was only $500k (yes, ONLY $500k), every fan should have a bad taste in their mouth. Especially if that amount would've been enough to move up.
SoUjazzfan
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I'll go on record saying I don't hate the pick. I'm guessing his greatest attribute will be his ability to learn the system and then maximize his role in it. As has been said many times already, he played with a great number of players at Duke and adjusted his game to accentuate theirs.
It also makes me wonder what happens with Exum. Does this signal they won't match any and all offers?
It also makes me wonder what happens with Exum. Does this signal they won't match any and all offers?
SoUjazzfan
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Technically correct. I should have said management has said they would love to keep him and will make every effort within reason to do so. I guess what I'm curious about is will it lower the offer they are willing to match.
With the 21st pick in the NBA draft teams normally get crap. One of the reasons i was excited this year was the depth. I truly believed and still do that this was a deep draft. I think the jazz took the safe pick when they should have gambled on potential. I think my frustration with the Allen pick is my belief that 3 players selected after Allen will eventually be much better than him.
So that i can be fairly judged in later years the 3 players i would have chosen before Allen are:
1. Elie Okobo (super high ceiling but he could also flop hard)
2. Anfernee Simons (same)
3. Chandler Hutchinson (shooter and athlete).
At 21 i would have risked the flop for a chance at greatness. I DONT think Allen is going to flop, but i just dont see the potential upside that I do with my choices.
So that i can be fairly judged in later years the 3 players i would have chosen before Allen are:
1. Elie Okobo (super high ceiling but he could also flop hard)
2. Anfernee Simons (same)
3. Chandler Hutchinson (shooter and athlete).
At 21 i would have risked the flop for a chance at greatness. I DONT think Allen is going to flop, but i just dont see the potential upside that I do with my choices.
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Knowledgeofmine
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Yes Boston I bet is more the n happy with their pick
I'm not disappointed with the Allen pick at 21, per se. If the Jazz didn't want to draft Okobo, or Hutchison, or Robert Williams, then they have their reasons. They obviously scouted the **** out of Allen, and they wanted to draft him at #21. They weren't interested in trading back and picking up an asset.
If I'm disappointed, it's that the Jazz weren't able to move up into the teens to get someone with more upside, like Lonnie Walker, Troy Brown or Josh Okogie. All three of those guys have more upside longer term than Allen and could be legitimate starters in the league.
Grayson Allen will be good at what he does. He'll be a reliable 3-pt shooter. He'll play his *** off on defense. He'll handle and run the plays that Quin wants to run without conflicting with Donovan Mitchell. He'll be a good rotation player, and may be a piece of the puzzle. If he gets hot shooting the ball during a playoff series, he could make a difference to winning the series.
DL says that Allen has been a complementary player supporting the star players at Duke, and that's the role he'll have here. He's obviously well coached and is as NBA ready as anyone we were looking at.
If I'm disappointed, it's that the Jazz weren't able to move up into the teens to get someone with more upside, like Lonnie Walker, Troy Brown or Josh Okogie. All three of those guys have more upside longer term than Allen and could be legitimate starters in the league.
Grayson Allen will be good at what he does. He'll be a reliable 3-pt shooter. He'll play his *** off on defense. He'll handle and run the plays that Quin wants to run without conflicting with Donovan Mitchell. He'll be a good rotation player, and may be a piece of the puzzle. If he gets hot shooting the ball during a playoff series, he could make a difference to winning the series.
DL says that Allen has been a complementary player supporting the star players at Duke, and that's the role he'll have here. He's obviously well coached and is as NBA ready as anyone we were looking at.
elan_prodigy
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Prediction:
Grayson will break DMs record for 3s made by a rookie.
15/4/4 for the year on 54/41/85 shooting splits.
Will finish top 5 in rookie of the year votes.
Grayson will break DMs record for 3s made by a rookie.
15/4/4 for the year on 54/41/85 shooting splits.
Will finish top 5 in rookie of the year votes.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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Can we call him Man Hands?
Hmmm... how about Sloan Hands?