Game6Conley
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maybe the jazz just wanted to give him 1 last chance to say hed play off the bench?
Jazz want Sap?
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Especially since the only way a mediocre coach wins a title is with an overwhelmingly talented roster.
Jazz4ever
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Realistically Kanter and Favors are going to get 33 minutes a game at most, that leaves 30 more minutes we need at PF and I don't want to see Marvin Williams get that much burn he is a bum. Evans would be demolished at PF. Gobert probably won't be ready for anything and is a pure center. We would be razor thin and an injury would have us scrambling to pick a D league player up. The Jazz need another PF, they did not trade Millsap for a reason.
I think it'd be cool to have Sap back. I would also prefer him to start at PF. I like Kanter just as much as everyone else, but he's still very young and inexperienced and would be better coming off the bench. Mostly because he's a bit of a ball stopper on the block (he'll learn to pass, he's smart) and then he can also work the pick and roll with Burks/Burke, which shows some good promise.
Sap's defensive deficiencies will be severely lessened with Favors playing at center IMO so it won't be as bad. However, it would be awesome if he would rebound like he did when he came into the league. Millsap will also spread the floor better and with possibly Mayo, Hayward, Millsap out there Burke may be able to start due to his shooting. I kind of see a method to the madness, this lineup has potential for terrific spacing, which = points
Sap's defensive deficiencies will be severely lessened with Favors playing at center IMO so it won't be as bad. However, it would be awesome if he would rebound like he did when he came into the league. Millsap will also spread the floor better and with possibly Mayo, Hayward, Millsap out there Burke may be able to start due to his shooting. I kind of see a method to the madness, this lineup has potential for terrific spacing, which = points
Doc Cherno
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I see this as a tough decision. I really didn't see Kanter as starter material last year. Dude get blocked a ton. And Favors better hope Malone helps him get a couple more moves around the basket. If they could get Sap back for a decent price I'd bite. I know there's folks here who say Corbin loves vets, but if you can't beat out the player in front of you in practice you shouldn't start in the game, no matter how much potential you have. Big France is only ready for a few minutes a game, so even if they don't sign Sap they need at least one more solid big. After Sap I'd say Robinson makes sense...
Stop with all this mentoring stuff. Both Favors and Kanter already have a work ethic, besides Millsap barely even talks to people. His personality is not that of a rah rah leader.
I wouldn't give Millsap anything more than a 3 year deal with a team option. I would also tell him that eventually he will have to be ok with being a 6th man off the bench. I would even try to sell it to him up front. However, at the start of the season he may be starting until Kanter recovers fully from his injury. The contract shouldn't be more than eight million a year.
DutchJazzer
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could you please explain how having millsap playing exactly the same minutes a slast year be hampering the development of favors and kanter?
please.
DutchJazzer
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every single game favors and kanter outplayed jefferson.
its not the players fult the coaches (and you for that matter) don't see it.
The problem is that when a young guy actually beats out the vet the vet still gets playing time over him. Time and TIme again Burks would out play Foye yet Foye got the majority of minutes. Another example is Carroll and Marvin.
When Evans has gotten minutes he has not got demolished. Most of the time he gets a pretty good stat line for limited minutes. Jeremy could play 15 -18 minutes in a pinch.
Hopefully it's just a feeling out process:
1. As a courtesy to Millsap who has been with us his whole career; and
2. To see whether we can get a good deal for him (he might be excited to mentor/groom our young bigs for a reasonable price)
Lindsey has come up GOLD for us so far, let's see if he can continue this hot streak - I am confident he'll make the right call.
bjunior
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i would add that our vets didn't made the playoffs and had a pathetic performance after the allstar break
apparently this is what some here like to see over and over
Getting Traded
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Seems like there is friction with Ty with everyone but the FO.
Game6Conley
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maybe they just wanted to give him a last chance to accept a role off the bench?
or maybe just for appearances?
or maybe just for appearances?
Game6Conley
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if you watch that game vs the clippers where millsap scored like 15 in the first, then blake griffen destroyed him for the next 3 quarters
that was the game that really convinced me Sap's days in Utah were numbered
that was the game that really convinced me Sap's days in Utah were numbered
We don't need Millsap on our roster for any reason. He wants to be a starter, we don't need a PF starter, we have one that we need to develop. We could use a backup and it's not Sap, sadly. The only serious development of a player is through playing more minutes against starting players on opposing teams. (Latest use case(s) of such: Jimmy Butler, Earl Clark and more...). I'm sure the Karl Malone assistance will only come good with starters minutes and I'm sure that's why they asked The Mailman to come back and help.
