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JazzFanz Official Draft Rumors Thread '13

mellow said:
Didn't see this posted....

Spence Checketts on 1280 says he called around and did some checking on who the Jazz like. Word is the Jazz want to move up, but they are pretty tight lipped about the target. Spence said he finally found a guy who told him the Jazz target would be McCollum and the price was probably #14 and Burks.

If it happens ....I told you so.

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php...-2013-draftees&p=457212&viewfull=1#post457212

Also, I posted on that Gerald Green thing yesterday and was soundly trashed for suggesting it. Now today everyone thinks its a good idea?
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That's waaaayyyyy too much for anyone in this draft. You're essentially trading the #12 pick (from a better draft) and a #14 pick for CJ. IMO, that's not a good deal.

Why not sit tight and see if someone like Bazz slips all the way down to #14?
 
Thee jazz fan said:
hell ya I say hell no! You don't trade away a guy in Kanter that you can build a contender around. Put Favors next to him, just makes Kanter that much better. There's nothing special about anything we're getting back from the Cavs. Your young son, you'll learn.
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I agree. I think Kanter has potential to be a top 3 big in the NBA in a year or two. Noel has potential to be a solid starter, maybe. You don't trade away that much potential for that little potential coming back.
 
The Thriller said:
That's waaaayyyyy too much for anyone in this draft. You're essentially trading the #12 pick (from a better draft) and a #14 pick for CJ. IMO, that's not a good deal.

Why not sit tight and see if someone like Bazz slips all the way down to #14?
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This. I was on the trade Burks bandwagon early on, but the more this draft process goes on, the less I like it and the more I think Burks is better than everyone outside of McLemore. I'd give up Burks for McLemore and maybe toss in #21. That's it. I say just take BPA when you pick knowing he probably won't be on the roster in 3 years.
 
The Thriller said:
That's waaaayyyyy too much for anyone in this draft. You're essentially trading the #12 pick (from a better draft) and a #14 pick for CJ. IMO, that's not a good deal.

Why not sit tight and see if someone like Bazz slips all the way down to #14?
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The only explanation is that they think CJ is a cornerstone piece to this Jazz team down the road. I can't think of any other explanation on why they would trade Burks and the 14th pick.
 
The Thriller said:
That's waaaayyyyy too much for anyone in this draft. You're essentially trading the #12 pick (from a better draft) and a #14 pick for CJ. IMO, that's not a good deal.

Why not sit tight and see if someone like Bazz slips all the way down to #14?
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I posted that exact thing here yesterday before Spence made his statement. Hmmm.. wonder where he got the info. lol
 
14 and Burks is dumb man. I'd maaaaaaaaaaybe do it for Burke, but no one else. Honestly. Probably not even for Burke
 
trigg3r said:
The only explanation is that they think CJ is a cornerstone piece to this Jazz team down the road. I can't think of any other explanation on why they would trade Burks and the 14th pick.
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I like CJ as much as anyone on here (well, almost anyone) but I don't know if he has the athleticism to be a "cornerstone" piece. Burks on the other hand...

CJ? I see him as more of a Brandon Knight type player than Deron. He doesn't have the vision, the athleticism, or the attitude to be Deron. The comparisons to Steph Curry or Damien Lillard aren't accurate either. Those 2 are smooooottthhh operators. I don't see CJ with the type of ballhandling skills as those 2. Especially Curry, who is a sick mix of Steve Nash, Ray Allen, and White Chocolate Williams with his ballhandling skills.

I don't like giving up Burks. If he and Ty aren't compatible, then play the hell out of him this year to boost his value and trade him by the trade deadline. Don't trade him now, where his value is probably at an all-time low. He's part of the C4 for crying out loud and we are giving up on him already?

I say sit tight and see who falls to us @ 14. We know someone will. MCW, Bazz, or some big. Someone is going to drop.
 
The Thriller said:
I like CJ as much as anyone on here (well, almost anyone) but I don't know if he has the athleticism to be a "cornerstone" piece. Burks on the other hand...
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It certainly is going to be a bit of a downer if Burks is dealt. I guess we will just have to have faith that they made the right decision if this does indeed go down. That is, until they give us a reason not to have faith.
 
The Jazz need to go with Dieng at #14, he has an NBA skill the Jazz need in defending the paint. Probably the best rebounder/shot blocker in the draft. Larkin or Schroeder can be had at #21.

In free agency the Jazz need to pick up a shooter, Korver and a point, possibly Mo?
 
trigg3r said:
It certainly is going to be a bit of a downer if Burks is dealt. I guess we will just have to have faith that they made the right decision if this does indeed go down. That is, until they give us a reason not to have faith.
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The Jazz haven't given us reason not to have faith?

..... they haven't?.....

How many times have we been to the playoffs in the past 3 years?

How many assets did we get last year when we traded Big Al and Millsap?

Did you see our great 3 point guards last year?

Marvin Williams.

Marvin Williams.

Marvin Williams.

Josh Howard/Raja Bell.....

To me, it's actually the opposite. This franchise has no identity. It hasn't had direction for years. Complete lack of leadership on all levels. If anything, they need to prove to the fan base that they know what the hell they're doing. Because... Since the owner died, Jerry left, and Deron was dealt, they've been spinning in circles.
 
The Thriller said:
The Jazz haven't given us reason not to have faith?

..... they haven't?.....

How many times have we been to the playoffs in the past 3 years?

How many assets did we get last year when we traded Big Al and Millsap?

Did you see our great 3 point guards last year?

Marvin Williams.

Marvin Williams.

Marvin Williams.

To me, it's actually the opposite. This franchise has no identity. It hasn't had direction for years. Complete lack of leadership on all levels. If anything, they need to prove to the fan base that they know what the hell they're doing. Because... Since the owner died, Jerry left, and Deron was dealt, they've been spinning in circles.
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I didn't say they were perfect. I said you have to have faith that they will do the right thing regarding the draft. What else can you really do? Neither of us have influence on the decisions that are about to be made today. Rather than worrying about them, I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt. If you don't feel like doing that, that's your prerogative. I don't let things I can't control anger me. Or I at least try not to.
 
Yesterday I broke the exact scenario the Jazz are looking at on McCollum. I just heard two more bits.

1) They're trying to get high enough to get Burke.. McCollum is option 2.
2) Also looking heavily at Zeller.
 
PKM said:
Yesterday I broke the exact scenario the Jazz are looking at on McCollum. I just heard two more bits.

1) They're trying to get high enough to get Burke.. McCollum is option 2.
2) Also looking heavily at Zeller.
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YES. omg YES!!!
 
PKM said:
Yesterday I broke the exact scenario the Jazz are looking at on McCollum. I just heard two more bits.

1) They're trying to get high enough to get Burke.. McCollum is option 2.
2) Also looking heavily at Zeller.
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Eww. Def dont want to trade Burks and 14 for Burke
 
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