John McCain Has Brain Cancer

[Harambe]

It's called Obamacare. Ain't you know nuthin? Go use the dam calculator for petes sake.

So you hate the ACA, but you pay $2 a visit?

Doesn't that make you the equivalent of the immigrant who support Donnie's immigration ban?

I mean... you're making my case for me.

 

[Boris]

It's important that everyone pay into the system for two reasons:

Legally, ERs cannot refuse you. So while you may not like paying for insurance, I guarantee you that you'll come crying to the ER demanding that they provide you for service as soon as you have an emergency. You might think that you have enough cash in the bank to pay for any HC emergency. However, the facts don't support this view. The #1 cause for bankruptcy in this nation are health care costs. Chemo alone costs over $200,000 dollars.

Furthermore, without everyone slapping some skin into the system, particularly, for insurance, the pools to cover sick/old people dry up. You see, the best way to keep premiums down is to encourage far more healthy people to contribute into the system than unhealthy. That's sort of how insurance works. If people could just "opt out" of paying for insurance then those who need health care the most will see skyrocketing premiums and the system will eventually crash.

If we want to maintain healthy insurance rates, then we need to enforce these two solutions:

A) Everyone pay into the system.
B) Government regulation of prices.

What we have with Obamacare is an individual mandate but very little government regulation of the prices. So you the consumer pay higher premiums for states that have refused to expand Medicaid and for greedy hospitals and pharmaceuticals that price gouge patients.

In France, Germany, and Japan, they have non-profit insurance companies that are regulated by the government. The government either sets the price or strongly regulates them. Everyone pays into the system. For profit supplemental insurance is available as well. But everyone must contribute to the baseline insurance.

That's the system I think would work best for America.

You still maintain some semblance of the insurance system but keep prices under control.

France, Germany, and Japan all spend far less of their GDP on healthcare than we do. They spend between 10-13 percent of their GDP on healthcare while we're up around 18 percent.

Sad

If we're going to use an Insurance system, everyone's gotta have it.

How you take that statement will say much about you.

Thank god we still have adults in the room preaching these fundamentals to the liberal nanny staters. Where would we be without places like The Heritage Foundation splashing this water into the kiddos faces?

But if all y'all dumbasses wanna give me free healthcare I'm gonna continue laughin all the way to the bank.

 

[Harambe]

Thank god we still have adults in the room preaching these fundamentals to the liberal nanny staters. Where would we be without places like The Heritage Foundation splashing this water into the kiddos faces?

But if all y'all dumbasses wanna give me free healthcare I'm gonna continue laughin all the way to the bank.

I want you to start being this person offline. See how fast you get shot.

 

[fishonjazz]

Omg really? I live on food SNAP when I need to an give most my stamps to needy neighbors mostly single mothers. I got me Obamacare on the exchange an that's pretty much only think on my tax return. I can tell you it is a lot better then goin to the dam clinic an my cost is basically zero cause I only claim enough cash to offset the fine.

You party line hacks an your one side only mentality...

You and all your con buddies lol

 

[DutchJazzer]

Yes people should be forced into things. It's where you draw the line that is what's debatable. Unless you think anyone should be able to do anything without forced consequences. Should we be able to force convicted murderers into prison? You really need to step up your logic... I know it's a rough time for you though so I'll this one slide.

Also it's not forced to get insurance. I have yet to have health insurance since Obamacare began. No one has forced me into it. So clearly you don't know what you are talking about again.

so not wanting insurance is the same as murdering someone!?

got it!

their is more logic behind the libertarian ideal of initiation of force.


a murderer initiate force against his victim(yes i did assume his gender suck on a hand-grenade if it triggers you!).
now you respond with the initiation of force with force. in this case forcing him to be locked up!


now i am sitting on my piece of land enjoying live, cleaning my gun. minding my own business. and you and your 50.000001% voters decided i should buy insurance. if i do not you initiate force against me! that is wrong.


initiation of force is whats wrong.


one day you will get this logic. only use force as a response to the initiation of force by another party.

so murder forced in jail ok!

guy minding his own business forcing him to do what you want! NOT OK!

 

[Ron Mexico]

so not wanting insurance is the same as murdering someone!?

got it!

their is more logic behind the libertarian ideal of initiation of force.


!

No, there is a difference as I pointed out. You made a generic statement that was incorrect in multiple ways. Including the idea that you are forced to pay, which you are not.

Man, I remember how tiring it is with discussing issues with you. It takes forever to try and walk you through stuff and explain it.

But I'll leave you be, keep on making extreme generic statements that are easily proven wrong.

 

[Boris]

No, there is a difference as I pointed out. You made a generic statement that was incorrect in multiple ways. Including the idea that you are forced to pay, which you are not.

Man, I remember how tiring it is with discussing issues with you. It takes forever to try and walk you through stuff and explain it.

But I'll leave you be, keep on making extreme generic statements that are easily proven wrong.

The hell you talkin bout? Everone knows ya get fined $3000 if ya ain't got no insurance. That is FORCE. The money supposably goes to help fund Obummercare.

 

[Ron Mexico]

The hell you talkin bout? Everone knows ya get fined $3000 if ya ain't got no insurance. That is FORCE. The money supposably goes to help fund Obummercare.

No you don't. I didn't.

 

[Harambe]

so not wanting insurance is the same as murdering someone!?

got it!
NOT OK!

What's not ok, is the rest of us paying for your uninsured care because you can't sack up and be responsible.

Believe me, the hospital doesn't just eat the cost and forget about it....

 

[DutchJazzer]

if this law is so good, why ar emembers of congress house etc exempt from it?

because we all know it is ****TY!

 

[Stoked]

if this law is so good, why ar emembers of congress house etc exempt from it?

because we all know it is ****TY!

I doubt this will come as a surprise to anyone but this is inaccurate. Congress and their staffers have to get their insurance on the ACA insurance exchanges, a working spouse or buy it privately just like everyone else.

Keep plugging away. Maybe you will eventually hit something.

 

[Gameface]

I doubt this will come as a surprise to anyone but this is inaccurate. Congress and their staffers have to get their insurance on the ACA insurance exchanges, a working spouse or buy it privately just like everyone else.

Keep plugging away.

But that's not what people are saying in the alt-right echo chamber.

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[Harambe]

But that's not what people are saying in the alt-right echo chamber.

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All that means is DutchRudder can't admit to it publicly

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

I'll be the first to admit that I like to push the limits around here, but some of these posts in this thread are disgusting and absolutely shameful. Congratulations to Babe and scat for becoming mini-Trumps at the bottom of an outhouse.

I don't follow the left or right, but it seems clear to me which side is scraping the bottom these days. Trump is really the perfect leader for such scumbags.

As for John McCain, I haven't been a fan for a while now, but lately he seems like a pretty solid guy who refuses to fall into line with the rest of the turds. Even if he wasn't one of the good ones, I'd wish him best of luck with his battle for good health/life.

Godspeed, John McCain.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

We should not be financially penalized for not having insurance. I am all for making it cheaper and getting coverage to those that need/want it. I have no problem with that.

I agree with this in theory. However, if the alternative is to have a legalized form of the mafia shaking down citizens in this country in order to be covered, I'll happily pay my fine in order to fix this disgraceful profit for protection industry.

 

[Scat]

I'll be the first to admit that I like to push the limits around here, but some of these posts in this thread are disgusting and absolutely shameful. Congratulations to Babe and scat for becoming mini-Trumps at the bottom of an outhouse.

I don't follow the left or right, but it seems clear to me which side is scraping the bottom these days. Trump is really the perfect leader for such scumbags.

As for John McCain, I haven't been a fan for a while now, but lately he seems like a pretty solid guy who refuses to fall into line with the rest of the turds. Even if he wasn't one of the good ones, I'd wish him best of luck with his battle for good health/life.

Godspeed, John McCain.

Now that you have disliked my two posts in this thread and in addition have negged me, my original post was about how McCain will get better health care to fight his horrid disease than the majority of Americans will ever have access to. He and his Capitol Hill cohorts are exempt from Obamacare and have the highest quality of health care in the world.

I do not relish the thought or enjoy the fact that anyone ever gets sick. Just wondering why Congress gets so much better health care than the rest of us.

 

[Gameface]

Now that you have disliked my two posts in this thread and in addition have negged me, my original post was about how McCain will get better health care to fight his horrid disease than the majority of Americans will ever have access to. He and his Capitol Hill cohorts are exempt from Obamacare and have the highest quality of health care in the world.

I do not relish the thought or enjoy the fact that anyone ever gets sick. Just wondering why Congress gets so much better health care than the rest of us.

So you skipped over the several posts that discuss the fact that congress MUST use "Obamacare?"

 

[Scat]

So you skipped over the several posts that discuss the fact that congress MUST use "Obamacare?"

I did skip over them. I didn't need to read multiple pages of diatribe. I did just go to fact check and you are correct. I'm wrong.

That said, I never celebrated the fact that McCain has brain cancer. On that, Cappy is absolutely up in the night.