Kenny the Jet complains about Stockton
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JAZZFAN_2814
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Stockton had to have off-season surgery on the arm. Shot and played under-par most of the playoffs. Tough SOB? Obviously. Most guys wouldn't have been playing after that.
The opposite of Webber: tough and clutch.
Webber's biggest moment in the series. And it happens on the first play of the first quarter.
Meanwhile, a one-armed Stockton still was what eliminated the Kings.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rB3LaFGvaU&feature=related
I doubt the Jazz could have made it 3 Finals in 3 years -- just looking at the history, modern teams struggle tremendously after three seasons of 100+ games, and Utah hit that after 98 -- but the Stockton injury was arguably the final blow to a run that seemed inevitable a couple of weeks earlier; the horrific lockout schedule in the final month, that only Utah had, started the ball rolling, of course.
The Jazz dropped in the way most big contenders do after a long run: the second round.
Utah owes Chris Webber a special thank you for that disastrous outcome.
We never heard the end of the Mermaid's domestic abuse , even though Malone decked a guy who played Center, and was suspended for it. Of course, Malone always outplayed Robinson in their playoff matchups.
Webber? He couldn't handle the defense of Bryon Russell in the post -- a guy giving up four inches and forty pounds.
Webber was a high-post pansy his entire career. A real trail blazer for the eurotrash of today.
The Jazz were the team that had the reputation for being dirty, so other teams wanted to play dirty against them, and could get away with it, while the Jazz had to be extra nice, or face the wrath of media , refs, fans, and probably Stern.
JAZZFAN_2814
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Because he fits right in.
It's not so much opinions and aholes, as it is Rick Kamla and aholes. That is, why shouldn't NBATV have a huge ******* like Webber considering all that ****?
Isn't that the game where this story came from?
"Man, one time I set a pick on (John) Stockton and I knocked Stockton to the ground and I gave him a shoulder. And I'm really cool with Stockton, but I was trying to show the rest of the team like I'm going to get the technical, you guys. I'll be the bad guy, come on. Well, Stockton kind of laughed. I laughed. I looked at the bench and Sloan looked at me.
"I said, 'You want some?' He was like, 'Damn right I want some.'
"Man, one time I set a pick on (John) Stockton and I knocked Stockton to the ground and I gave him a shoulder. And I'm really cool with Stockton, but I was trying to show the rest of the team like I'm going to get the technical, you guys. I'll be the bad guy, come on. Well, Stockton kind of laughed. I laughed. I looked at the bench and Sloan looked at me.
"I said, 'You want some?' He was like, 'Damn right I want some.'
JAZZFAN_2814
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Notice he never asked Malone.
When the press tried to get a positive statement from Sloan about Webber, after the latter's retirement ceremony (one of the hardest sells the Maloofs ever tried to make), all he would talk about was the Stockton hit and cowardice.
The idea that this was understood or respected by both sides is a crock.
Though let's understand, this was probably the biggest play of Webber's career outside "timeout!" and destroying Michigan Basketball. Telling that his greatest moments have nothing to do with playing the game at a high level.
JAZZFAN_2814
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A lot of what Anderson does, if not all of it, is creation from other sources: namely Stockton and Malone.
He waits on the weakside, while the defense concentrates on John, Karl and the more direct options of Utah's sets.
It's still impressive -- there were way too many years where Utah didn't have secondary players that could hit open shots.
Yet the playmaking, as can be expected, is Stockton and Malone. And the two, arguably, biggest scores come from Malone and Stockton.
And that last shot was simply cold.
He waits on the weakside, while the defense concentrates on John, Karl and the more direct options of Utah's sets.
It's still impressive -- there were way too many years where Utah didn't have secondary players that could hit open shots.
Yet the playmaking, as can be expected, is Stockton and Malone. And the two, arguably, biggest scores come from Malone and Stockton.
And that last shot was simply cold.
vslice02
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Yep, Webber's cheap shot on Stock was as dirty as it gets - and then he even had the gall to brag about it years later as a moment that turned the series (yeah it turned the series because he injured one of Utah's best players, not because it was a psychological message).
Stockton and Kerr go all the way back to their high school days while they were being recruited on the west coast. When both players visited Gonzaga on the same day they ended up competing against each other (yeah, college hoops visits were a little different back then) and according to Bill Walton: Stockton "torched Steve" during the workout. Kerr of course ended up going to Arizona.
Stockton definitely got up into you, but I've seen ALOT of John's games and I can't remember a single time a player came down on one of John's feet during a jumpshot.
Stockton and Kerr go all the way back to their high school days while they were being recruited on the west coast. When both players visited Gonzaga on the same day they ended up competing against each other (yeah, college hoops visits were a little different back then) and according to Bill Walton: Stockton "torched Steve" during the workout. Kerr of course ended up going to Arizona.
Stockton definitely got up into you, but I've seen ALOT of John's games and I can't remember a single time a player came down on one of John's feet during a jumpshot.