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Kevin Durant - Racist Remarks on Hayward....surprised...

Siro said:
He looks to be half white half black.
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dalamon said:
especially white music. Sheesh. Thank God for black people. Can you imagine popular music if it was just made by white people?

Classical and country music. Two worst genres of music out there.
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Classical music is awesome. You're ****ing high.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
FYI that term is not PC amongst the black community. Kinda like "colored".


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A melato is not a black person right? Why should black people care?
 
Siro said:
The problem is, by embracing the left's intelligentsia's perspective wholesale, you've also embraced their brand of racism.
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I dont embrace the left's perspective wholesale.

Their perspective is little different than that of their counterpart on the right. Only the target is different. So instead of rejecting racism, you instead became racist, then redefined yourself out of it. In your head, it is not racism because it is justified. That is exactly how the right thinks. They hate Islam because it is inherently violent. They are not against any race, only against certain cultures because of their actions.
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Right-- but then of course, we look at the particular justifications in both cases, because no two justifications are the same. Using the justification of Islam being violent as a means for prejudice is much weaker (to myself, at least) than asserting that racism = prejudice + power. If you disagree, say so-- and we can work out the details comparing the two.

Similarly, you've made your own justifications. Racism is not about prejudice, it is about prejudice with the power to do something about it. But what is power? You're using it as a synonym for "being white". Durant cannot have power, despite being a multimillionaire celebrity.
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You're putting the words and opinions of others into my mouth, for some reason. I am 100% not using it as a synonym for power. Iran is racist if they treat Zoroastrians differently. Japan is very much a racist nation, based on their treatment and appraisals of other nations.

As a member of the black community, Durant does not have the power that his white peers do. His financial success might give him power in an economic sense, but not in a sociological sense-- unless he was a leader of a black community strong enough to worsen the lives of the non-black counterparts living within his community. That would be an ecosystem in which power is relevant.

Why? Certainly not because he has no power in the relevant context . It is because you've defined power as "being white". No black person can have power, despite their actual objective level of power, because they are not white, and thus not subject to your brand of prejudice. In fact, even the current most powerful person in the US, and probably the world, is powerless in your definition, because he's black.
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Obama is a black figurehead operating in a white establishment that perpetuates a culture that still slants power towards the white population of the United States. If he lead to a change that led to a flip of the circumstances in every sense (redlining white communities, incarcerating white populations at a higher rate, etc.) then he would very much become racist, along with the black population of America that perpetuated these racist realities.

Power is complicated. I lived in the ghettos of Richmond, Virginia, in an area that tops 50 annual murder per 100000. Those people had no power in larger society. Police is reluctant to respond to calls in the area, businesses won't open shop there, and the residents are stuck in a cycle that makes it near impossible to ever improve their situation. The residents are also very racist against non-blacks (which is due to their situation. Everything has a reason, obviously). A Hispanic woman walking through that neighborhood at night would be in real danger, and she would have no power. The leftist abstracting of the problem serves to distance yourself from the fact that all issues are individual that affect individuals. It does this while pretending to be all about lifting the individual. A white person suffering due to race is as important as a black person suffering the same thing. This isn't a game of numbers, and power is a fickle thing when the individual is so fragile.
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Yes but your response is to individualize a problem that is very much systemic. To me, that's a big problem, and does nothing to address the very racist environment of 21st century Canada (we're just as bad) and United Stqtes.

And that is my issue with the leftist perspective; by proudly embracing racism (as long as it is not by whites, because apparently white people deserve it), they ensure its survival. It is not about excusing racism in a disadvantaged individual. It is about labeling entire segments of society as "advantaged" and "disadvantaged" regardless of the circumstances of the individual. But things change. And when those things change, and blacks/whoever are no longer on average disadvantaged, and someone else is, we know one thing for sure, racism will have survived. And why wouldn't it? Both sides embrace it and encourage it, only choosing different targets. And it is sad, because as you well know, race itself is basically a meaningless designation.
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Not really. By showing how one population can be racist and another can be prejudiced, it notifies citizens of the inherent necessitation of power in discriminating against an entire people-- and ignoring this will 100% continue to perpetuate racism.

One more thought that I want to get through; white people are not special. Everything they'd done has been done by everyone else. You call what Europeans did colonialism? Hah! Arabs invaded half of the known world, completely erased the cultures and history of the invaded, and slapped the word "Arab" on them. There are half a billion Arabs now, out which not even a tenth are actual ethnic Arabs. And I have yet to see anyone on the left cry about Arab colonizing horribleness and justify racism against them. Sure what Europeans did happened at a more recent time with better technology that furthered their reach, but it was neither unique nor exceptional.
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Most members in the Arabian peninsula are very much racist. We can extend that sentence to the entire world, really. However, we must hold ourselves to a higher standard.

There is much MUCH more to talk about regarding this issue. The foolishness of transmitting guilt through genetic lines. The disaster of insisting mainstream American culture is "white culture". The left's evolution into an anti-success ideology that has become hostile to anything successful from Western culture, to civilization in general, to capitalism, to even being human. And a lot more. But I do need to go back to work.
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I think you take a lot of those problems too seriously, but hey, I'm sure you have good reasoning behind it.
 
fishonjazz said:
A melato is not a black person right? Why should black people care?
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it's mulatto- and it is a reminder of how they were (and are) still treated like second class citizens. You would understand if you had a earnest conversation with a black person regarding it, and tried to put yourself in their shoes.
 
dalamon said:
it's mulatto- and it is a reminder of how they were (and are) still treated like second class citizens. You would understand if you had a earnest conversation with a black person regarding it, and tried to put yourself in their shoes.
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Mulatto in English, which comes from the Spanish word mulato. Mulato was used to describe someone that was born from a European and a Native American. Nowadays it's used a lot in Spain still and by no means it's considered degrading. It's just a person who's parents are a black and a white person, that's all there is to it.
 
Jamezz said:
Mulatto in English, which comes from the Spanish word mulato. Mulato was used to describe someone that was born from a European and a Native American. Nowadays it's used a lot in Spain still and by no means it's considered degrading. It's just a person who's parents are a black and a white person, that's all there is to it.
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all there's to it in Spain-- not America.

People use negro in Spain. Not America.
 
I find it funny that 'negro' would be offensive though since it's a literal translation of the word 'black'.

Don't you dare ever call me 'blanco'.
 
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