Last game of the season -- Jazz @ Blazers 4/11/2018 8:30 pm MST

[Ron Mexico]

But you don't back down when the opponent is overly aggressive.

You do when you dont care about the game and dont want to get hurt. You are looking to the playoffs as your priority.

This team has no problem with getting physical and playing hard. Its silly to say otherwise with our level of defense and even more silly to claim the coach did a poor job because he didnt tell them to "play more physical" as you claim.

And yes I didnt read all of your first post. I couldnt make it past where you claimed Snyder was out coached and didnt tell the players to be more physical as your reason for that. But know I just read the rest of it and you made no other point besides they got away with some hard fouls and we didnt hard foul them back.

 

[Getting Traded]

You do when you dont care about the game and dont want to get hurt. You are looking to the playoffs as your priority.

This team has no problem with getting physical and playing hard. Its silly to say otherwise with our level of defense and even more silly to claim the coach did a poor job because he didnt tell them to "play more physical" as you claim.

And yes I didnt read all of your first post. I couldnt make it past where you claimed Snyder was out coached and didnt tell the players to be more physical as your reason for that. But know I just read the rest of it and you made no other point besides they got away with some hard fouls and we didnt hard foul them back.

So, Ron, were you a basketball player? Just because Quin said it was a meaningless game doesn't mean it was -- you think home court is meaningless in the playoffs -- history shows it isn't. Quin was just making excuses because the Jazz didn't step up like they should have. If you're playing and someone gets physical, you don't do a Hayward and turn the other cheek. You get in their grill and give at least as much as they gave to you.

 

[gregbroncs]

Who said they didn't care. They didn't step up to the physicality for whatever reason. Maybe home court didn't mean that much, considering there were playing OKC win or lose.

It's really hard to step up your physicality when you get called for fouls every time there is any contact. The refs called about 6 fouls on the Jazz when they had good position and hands straight up. Meanwhile on the other end Portland was hacking and fouling and not getting called. I hate blaming the refs but the black ref with the bald head did not call anything for the Jazz and was calling every little contact for Portland. Personally I think he had a bet on the game and didn't want to lose. That said the Jazz didn't adjust well to the contact Portland was bringing. If your going to get called for a foul on contact at least make the other team feel it. The Jazz definitely played a little soft, but the officials had a bit to do with that. Hopefully Quin can use it as a learning experience so Rubio and Mitchell can learn what playoff basketball is going to be like.

 

[Ron Mexico]

So, Ron, were you a basketball player? Just because Quin said it was a meaningless game doesn't mean it was -- you think home court is meaningless in the playoffs -- history shows it isn't. Quin was just making excuses because the Jazz didn't step up like they should have. If you're playing and someone gets physical, you don't do a Hayward and turn the other cheek. You get in their grill and give at least as much as they gave to you.

Yes, I have played basketball. No, I have not played in the NBA and neither have you. When you play competitive sports and the game is meaningless its hard to play hard. It might be important to you that the Jazz got the 3rd seed but it wasnt to the players or coaches. They were looking to OKC.

The team mentioned before the game that home court didnt matter to them. So it was not an excuse after.

As for the rest of your argument, no. If someone is hard fouling the solution isnt to hard foul back that just silly. Yes the team should play harder and will when the games matter.

By teasing you has nothing to do with the Jazz not playing hard its that you claim Snyder was out coached because he didnt tell them to play hard. We didnt play hard, the team was tired and had nothing to win. When the game is meaningless its hard to play hard when you are tired and looking to the future. I have no problem with the Jazz tanking that game. 3rd seed would have been cool but meaningless.

 

[Getting Traded]

Yes, I have played basketball. No, I have not played in the NBA and neither have you. When you play competitive sports and the game is meaningless its hard to play hard. It might be important to you that the Jazz got the 3rd seed but it wasnt to the players or coaches. They were looking to OKC.

The team mentioned before the game that home court didnt matter to them. So it was not an excuse after.

As for the rest of your argument, no. If someone is hard fouling the solution isnt to hard foul back that just silly. Yes the team should play harder and will when the games matter.

By teasing you has nothing to do with the Jazz not playing hard its that you claim Snyder was out coached because he didnt tell them to play hard. We didnt play hard, the team was tired and had nothing to win. When the game is meaningless its hard to play hard when you are tired and looking to the future. I have no problem with the Jazz tanking that game. 3rd seed would have been cool but meaningless.

I don't buy that argument. Meaningless or not, somebody punks me, I give it back. That's just the nature of competition. And in the NBA, the level of competition is a lot more intense than whatever level we played.

 

[Getting Traded]

It's really hard to step up your physicality when you get called for fouls every time there is any contact. The refs called about 6 fouls on the Jazz when they had good position and hands straight up. Meanwhile on the other end Portland was hacking and fouling and not getting called. I hate blaming the refs but the black ref with the bald head did not call anything for the Jazz and was calling every little contact for Portland. Personally I think he had a bet on the game and didn't want to lose. That said the Jazz didn't adjust well to the contact Portland was bringing. If your going to get called for a foul on contact at least make the other team feel it. The Jazz definitely played a little soft, but the officials had a bit to do with that. Hopefully Quin can use it as a learning experience so Rubio and Mitchell can learn what playoff basketball is going to be like.

You know something, I attended a Jazz game when that guy reffed and I felt he did the same thing that game. I remember Alec getting mauled on a drive to the hoop and he was the ref in position to call it but didn't. This was in Indiana, a couple of years ago. But you do have to admit, the Blazers did come out very aggressively and kind of surprised the Jazz with it.

 

[LifeOnaPlate]

Lol is eenie meenie the person that Locke went off on today on his podcast?

 

[infection]

Lol is eenie meenie the person that Locke went off on today on his podcast?

Can we get a tl:dl version?

 

[LifeOnaPlate]

Someone asked a question about Snyder getting out-coached, made a few suggestions about what Utah should've done differently defensively and Locke lost it. Basically said the suggestions were really stupid, etc.

 

[str8line]

Yes, I have played basketball. No, I have not played in the NBA and neither have you. When you play competitive sports and the game is meaningless its hard to play hard. It might be important to you that the Jazz got the 3rd seed but it wasnt to the players or coaches. They were looking to OKC.

The team mentioned before the game that home court didnt matter to them. So it was not an excuse after.

As for the rest of your argument, no. If someone is hard fouling the solution isnt to hard foul back that just silly. Yes the team should play harder and will when the games matter.

By teasing you has nothing to do with the Jazz not playing hard its that you claim Snyder was out coached because he didnt tell them to play hard. We didnt play hard, the team was tired and had nothing to win. When the game is meaningless its hard to play hard when you are tired and looking to the future. I have no problem with the Jazz tanking that game. 3rd seed would have been cool but meaningless.

I can't believe anyone would think home court is meaningless. When game 7 rolls around no one is going to wish they were on the road.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I can't believe anyone would think home court is meaningless. When game 7 rolls around no one is going to wish they were on the road.

Well, that's how the players and coaches feel. Obviously it didn't matter last year. Our record lately has shown it doesn't matter and pretty much every NBA player thinks it doesnt matter.

Personally I really wanted the 3 seed. I would prefer home court. But that's not a mutual feeling with the team.

 

[Getting Traded]

Well, that's how the players and coaches feel. Obviously it didn't matter last year. Our record lately has shown it doesn't matter and pretty much every NBA player thinks it doesnt matter.

Personally I really wanted the 3 seed. I would prefer home court. But that's not a mutual feeling with the team.

What else do you expect them to say? It's putting a positive spin on not getting home court. If you look at the history of the playoffs, home court advantage is a big plus.

 

[Ron Mexico]

What else do you expect them to say? It's putting a positive spin on not getting home court. If you look at the history of the playoffs, home court advantage is a big plus.

They said it before the game. Players say it every year all the time. What you said is correct statistically but that's not how a competitive athlete feels about it.

Also the team with home court advantage wins more often in the playoffs due to being the better team. That's how they get home court advantage usually.

 

[Getting Traded]

I still say that the physical play was what got Portland the win. If the Jazz weren't so concerned about winning, then I would've put in the second team and told them to foul the crap out of Portland. Like I said, the refs weren't calling the fouls by them. The only way you get the refs to start calling it is to give it back, then they're forced to call it both ways.

 

[gregbroncs]

Someone asked a question about Snyder getting out-coached, made a few suggestions about what Utah should've done differently defensively and Locke lost it. Basically said the suggestions were really stupid, etc.

If you disagree with Locke or disparage the Jazz in any way he'll go off. It's just who he is.

 

[sonofthebigdog]

Home court is worth $$$ to the ownership is ticket sales and concessions.

 

[Siro]

They said it before the game. Players say it every year all the time. What you said is correct statistically but that's not how a competitive athlete feels about it.

Also the team with home court advantage wins more often in the playoffs due to being the better team. That's how they get home court advantage usually.

Is it? The home team wins because they typically will have earned a better seed by being a better team. But in the 4-5 matchup, what's the record for the team with HCA? I bet it's not much higher than 50%.

 

[fishonjazz]

Home court is worth $$$ to the ownership is ticket sales and concessions.

The team would also prefer homecourt. I guarantee that if the series came down to game 7 and the nba decided to do a coin toss to decide which team gets to choose where that game is played and the jazz won the coin toss they would choose to play in slc. Guaranteed.

 

[fishonjazz]

Is it? The home team wins because they typically will have earned a better seed by being a better team. But in the 4-5 matchup, what's the record for the team with HCA? I bet it's not much higher than 50%.

Also, what is each teams home record vs road for the regular season? I would guess that a vast majority, if not 100%, of teams have a better home record than road.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Also, what is each teams home record vs road for the regular season? I would guess that a vast majority, if not 100%, of teams have a better home record than road.

Home court advantage is dwindling in the NBA. There is a lot to it but it's not really that big of a deal anymore. But and Denver have a bit of one due to altitude. Regardless I am positive players don't care about it in the playoffs. Just like last year for the Jazz when they only won 1 home game in the playoffs. The better team will win and that's hiw the players view it.