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The problem with fascism, apart from the historical inhumanities, like the current fascist United States' corporate prison establishment that gives prison operators immense profits from government budgets while degrading the human inmates to sub-slave living conditions, is just that oligarchs don't make good decisions. Oligarchs, or people with "connections" define the basic mechanism of fascism. It's who you know, and the quid pro-quo of the "deal", that tips the scales in every decision.

Hillary Clinton. ... Bill Clinton. . . destroyed the democratic party already, the same way Trump is destroying the Republican Party in the US today. It's a fact that the Clintons, Trump, and the Bush league are all "players" for the oligarchs, and that Obama is their servile boot-licker. And that our media, and our "Hollywood" elites are all in the bag together.

What used to be good about America is now lost, a fiction of a largely imaginary past. Equal Protection under the laws meant oligarchs had to live by the same laws the rest of us do. That is gone now. Hillary, Obama, Trump, and the Bushes are above the reach of the law, enjoying the perks of "the arrogance of power" where they can openly defy the law, with no consequences. As long as they serve the relevant oligarchs well, they are untouchable.

I might have to admit that one good thing is coming out of the AGW/Climate Change politics. . .. innovation in solar power technology. It is rumored that the Rockefeller investment portfolio has been selling off oil interests and buying into solar technology. A lot of major corporations are getting on this boat. Some new solar chip innovations promise to make solar the outright winner in the competition for energy market share.stuff like high production efficiencies, the use of an aluminum/magnesium conductor replacing silver, broad-spectrum energy conversion, and improved battery designs are all coming together, with a huge subsidy from the government. . . .to create a knock-out punch against even natural gas generators. . . .even nuclear generators. . . .

In this case, the oligarchs got it right.

But the American way is equal protection under the laws, and equal opportunity for all. In this case, if you want to be equal, you need to invest wisely, maybe buying some shares along with the Rockefellers.

I think it was always like that. The one that held the power always stayed above the law. I think it's us who change instead of the conditions. Our way of understanding changes. We used to believe in the laws, equality and freedom. Now we can clearly see that they are just a hunk of crap. Or maybe this is just a subconscious aging ego trick of our brain on us that results in us seeing everything pessimistically. We did not like how we lived our lives and everything seems like going down for us. Maybe things are just changing in the way they are supposed to be and we cannot keep up with that.

Who holds the power is another issue. We have studied some Charles Wright Mills in sociology department and his description of American power elites were pretty clear about one thing. It never stays put.
 
I think it was always like that. The one that held the power always stayed above the law. I think it's us who change instead of the conditions. Our way of understanding changes. We used to believe in the laws, equality and freedom. Now we can clearly see that they are just a hunk of crap. Or maybe this is just a subconscious aging ego trick of our brain on us that results in us seeing everything pessimistically. We did not like how we lived our lives and everything seems like going down for us. Maybe things are just changing in the way they are supposed to be and we cannot keep up with that.

Who holds the power is another issue. We have studied some Charles Wright Mills in sociology department and his description of American power elites were pretty clear about one thing. It never stays put.

Entropy.

Look at it this way. Some body with all the marbles today. Come back in fifty years and see who has the marbles.

My issue is not who has the marbles, but who can play the game.
 
The Trump Card

So some dudes like to hiss nonsense to end arguments, irrefutable nonsense. . . try reasoning with it, and you're the fool.
 
So some dudes like to hiss nonsense to end arguments, irrefutable nonsense. . . try reasoning with it, and you're the fool.

REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM.

Trump card has been played before our eyes and it turned out terribly wrong. I pray to God for you Americans to stay away from this ignorant type of nihilist power magnet's fake attraction because it will end your social order.

This power sucking bigotry structure will feed you with the satisfaction of hatred amongst what you have grown tired of, and turn it into an enemy to keep you close to itself so that any time the one's holding the power fail, they will use these fault lines these conflict lines to keep you at their side with distractions that keep your focus away from their fails and exploitation.
 
Utah Republican Primaries

OK, so I went.

In our neighborhood, we had 25 people show up. 3 went home after voting for President. the vote was 19-5-1 Criz-Trump-Kasich. Some went home after that. Three of them took pics on their phones of the tally, obviously they were democrats, and they came to vote for Trump, and intended to make some kind of claim about how the Utah Machine was rigging the election.

today I heard it on a national radio program. George Soros and the New World Order fascists had rigged the Utah primary. Such and such a company, run by a Soros liewtenant, had stolen the Utah voter's voice and thrown it to Cruz. The lady claimed the real vote was very close, with Trump getting a small majority. But with Mitt, Huntsman, and Hatch throwing in behind Soros' count, it was all falsified to give Cruz all the delegates.

yah yah yah.

There was no computer used. The votes were tallied by precinct, reported to the district, and called in to the headquarters. My daughters counted our votes.
 
I ran for our state convention delegate. the vote was 7-6-1 with me at 6. The rules required 50% plus one for a winner, so we eliminated the 1 candidate, and voted again. Paper ballots, pens passed out, again. It was 7-7. So we flipped a nickel. The other candidate called the toss, and won. Oh, the stress. lol. The delegate is gonna hold Mia Love's feet to the fire for voting for house speaker what's his name. . . Mia's gonna hear about it. personally. Well, I woulda just got up for another representative. Mia's too dumb to be helped.

Actually. . . was about 50-50 to just vote to the outspoken other candidate. But I thought there oughta be some reason for 25 people to show up at a caucus, and why not just do one actual contested vote:?
 
Trump is Hillary's asset. His candidacy has the basic purpose of throwing the Republican Party into the toilet, and making it look so stinky even Trout would throw.
 
But here's the real problem with fundamentally crazy people like Hillary and Trump, sociopaths of the first rank, through all the history of mankind. . . the Neros fiddling while the Vandals burned Rome, the Pol Pots and Stalins and Hitlers and Napoleons. . . the David Rockefellers and the Merchants of Venice. . . the Henry VIIIs and the Bloody Marys. . . .insanity trickles down.

And you drink it up.
 
What has to be driving Hillary crazy, even knowing Trump is her lap dog, is the idea that Trump will really like the notoriety of power. . .. just enough. . . . just enough. . . to actually sober up for the real race, and win.
 
The trouble for the progressives with that is that they will have four years to ramp up for their landslide, when the Republicans won't even vote for Trump anymore.

And the progressives have gone nuts and forgotten their time-honored strategy of gradualism. They'll come roaring back with so much vengeance, they will scare even the ordinarily reliable democratic voters.

In four years, we'll have a new party. Not a third party. A new party. Progressives, mainstreamers, RINOs will have to merge to make a run for winning anything.

American Independents will want to finally close the border, remove the Supreme Court justices for malfeasance in overstepping their prerogatives and directing the totalitarian remaking of American society by judicial decree, and if Hillary or Trump doesn't get impeached within three years I'm missing something in the political sentiments of the populace.

But say what. . . If the Stop Cruz campaign fails, the so-called "liberals" will take to the streets. Civil War to overturn the will of about 70% of Americans who really think things have gone too far already. Most of whom wouldn't mind so much if the change were just slowed down to something they could mistake for normal progress.
 
In the past two months I've been all over California, hanging out in places like Irvine and Berkley where the Bernie Sanders signs are everywhere, and where you can hardly find a college student who isn't in a brain freeze with ideological mantras of liberalism drooling off their lips, crazed loonies who stumble over their own lips trying too hard not to cross the latest lines of politically correct speech.

But even California is rejecting these morons, and is going to go conservative this year, and in four more years.

The SirKickies have just lost their minds. Everybody knows it.

Jf forum is way behind the times.
 
So it looks like Trump is the man to beat.

I mean, really.

Even Trump is beating Trump.

Pretty sure the tide is actually turning. People have just seen too much of Trump, already. Cruz and Hillary, and the Media, are all now stating the obvious. Dump the Trump, Dump the Dunce.

So anyway, here's what is really going on. The Susan Sarandon left, and the Bernies. . . . check me if I'm wrong. . . . The JazzFanz forum would vote for Bernie 10 to 1. . . is in line with single payer healthcare, hoping to make Obamacare just too stupid to work, and all in with "The Revolution" that will displace the Corporates, in their imagination.

But the Corporates are actually to the left of that crowd, really. Sure they trot out a scarecrow manikin like Trump and play the strings to wow the crowd, but since The Government is theirs, and is their tax cash cow, and the reality is that populism is their best angle on actually disenfranchising voters, their future is secure.
 
Mark Levine

Sure, I know he's a little confused on Putin, and China, and America's worldwide interests, and pretty much can't see the harm in waterboarding jihadists or whatnot, or bombing the smithereens outta mud huts where ever they can be suspected of harboring smoldering resentments. . . .

But he makes a pretty good case about some things.

The Populism crusaders of the 1890s, the Don't Crucify the Farmers on a Silver Cross generation, was the nucleus that grew into the 1920s Progressives. It was American's Revolution. . . in fact the Susan Sarandon Revolution that even today is dreamed about by heavy-breathing liberals.

"The Dictatorship of the Proletariat" aka "The People".

And Mark Levine actually read the US Constitution. And understands it.

There was a revolution in America after the Revolution, called "The Whiskey rebellion", a sort of misnomer invented by an even-then ambitious Press. It was Marxists before Marx invented Marxism or wrote Das Kapital. It was Populism's first run on actual human rights. It was a direct assault on private property.

The situation was, then, that a few elites owned most of the territory now known as Upstate New York. And some commoners, the Clive Bundys of the age if you will, thought they had rights, and took up arms to seize the lands held by the elites in broad titles recorded in the seabord states who were seeking to extend their borders westward. Connecticut, Massachussets, Vermont all had recorded titles on those lands, in the name of some English-favored banksters, like the Bush family. So a bunch of yayhoos got out their guns and said "now way Georgie" in effect.

Americans were looking at those woods, now that King George was gone and the Brits had ceded the Northwest Territories to the Colonies, as somewhere they could go homestead a piece for themselves.

But George Washington raised enough troops to put down that lawlessness, as it was called in the Press. Politics being an art, not a science, did not allow for the private land grants to really be reckonized, thought. Congress did the revolution thing, and gave New York it's upstate track, and denied New Englanders their vast if narrow infinite westward power grabs. But the private property rights of the banker/elites were honored, and they eventually sold off enough to let those New England folks have some new holdings in those woods. A lot of American Revolutionary soldiers got some land grants in payment for their soldier service in upstate New York as well. My ancestors who fought in the war settled there in 1797.

But at any rate, the US Constitution protected private property rights. And as Blackstone noted it is still true, without private property rights you have no rights at all. If you can't own a cow, or a vegetable garden, your life is forfeit to want at anytime.

The right to life is also pretty important, and basic to all human rights. And Obamacare, as well as a Single Payer Health system, disenfranchises us from any effective recourse in time of need. We will have some petty bureaucrat of the government holding the purse, and saying it costs too much for some necessary care, so please just go home and die.

Populism is the essence of all redneck stupidity.

The US Constitution is the best system ever devised for protecting the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

The crime of our time is that we don't understand that, and we keep getting sucked in with the political hucksters trotted out by a fascist set of globalists who pretend to be saving the world for us.

Tump is a fascist, a huckster fire-breathing redneck workin' the crowd, but who in power will be no different from a Hillary or Kusich or Bush globalist New World Order Obama tyrant.

Cruz might be a genuine believer in the US Constitution, but he's still a politician, and apparently will be worked quite well even if he gets elected.

For all the hype and surging populism and dreams of revolution, that ship has already sailed, and nothing is going to change with this election, really.

The loser is the US Constitution, and you.
 
So it looks like Trump is the man to beat.

I mean, really.

Even Trump is beating Trump.

Pretty sure the tide is actually turning. People have just seen too much of Trump, already. Cruz and Hillary, and the Media, are all now stating the obvious. Dump the Trump, Dump the Dunce.

So anyway, here's what is really going on. The Susan Sarandon left, and the Bernies. . . . check me if I'm wrong. . . . The JazzFanz forum would vote for Bernie 10 to 1. . . is in line with single payer healthcare, hoping to make Obamacare just too stupid to work, and all in with "The Revolution" that will displace the Corporates, in their imagination.

But the Corporates are actually to the left of that crowd, really. Sure they trot out a scarecrow manikin like Trump and play the strings to wow the crowd, but since The Government is theirs, and is their tax cash cow, and the reality is that populism is their best angle on actually disenfranchising voters, their future is secure.

The corporates can be summed up as a single group, eh?
 
The corporates can be summed up as a single group, eh?

yes, just like "people". Some think they are people, even.

oh I get it, there's diversity in ownership one way or another. Hell, I bet even a fourth-generation oligarch looks over his shoulder once in a while and worries about who's gonna do what next. even in his own family.

So your question stinks like a smartass because in implies you think I'm a dumbass.

All language is symbolic in nature, and always fails to fit either the idea in some numbskull or what exists in the cosmos. If you see a parade and lots of folks wearing green and waving the American Flag, don't assume any two think exactly the same thing even about some commontopic like apple pie. Most of them probably don't have red hair, or even Irish names, and likely could not even point to Ireland on a map, or the United States.

By any level of significance above 50%, the corporates most of us have heard about are owned by "players", or represented by financial personnel from some investment firm, who are "players". And by "players" I mean folks who are agreeable to top-down governance and who put out big bucks to secure lobbyist representation to influence "our" elected "representatives". An ordinary person doesn't have either the money, or the knowledge, necessary to have any influence, no matter who he votes for.

But I bet there never will be a single significant person who really can run the game on this globe. No matter how much money you have, or how many people who try to curry favor with you somehow, the game will be contested by challengers. Even Stalin was always looking over his shoulder at his right-hand man wondering if the people loved his guy more than him. And for good reason.

Hope springs eternal in the human heart, and people will always want a better deal.

That's why, at the most fundamental level, the US Constitutional system is the most stable ever devised, because it was designed to confer as much liberty, and as much actual human rights, on ordinary people, as the people would ever understand enough to claim.

The fundamental reason why oligarchs and top-down folks hate the Constitution is because it is such a nuisance to them. It's the very idea that people have rights, or can have their way with their government in the least respect, that annoys the hell outta the Sir Kickies and Siros of the universe, the bright guys who seriously believe they know best. I might be the one who does know best, but I decided that so long as it's my idea it's a lost cause. It's gotta be other peoples' idea or it doesn't even count. It's gotta be some least common denominator to really have popular support.

The less power the government has, the less all those other people can hurt me. or you. Big government is the darling of larger interest groups who think they have a chance of making things go their way, including "little" wild cards like Trump, or larger collective associations like insurance companies or the oil cartel. And despite the futile delusions of the Bernies and other dreamers who listen to John's "Imagine" with religious fervor, "we" have an intrinsically different interest than the "corporates", but it the "Corporates" who will run a "single-payer health care system" with the same folks sitting at the table making up the rules whether Trump is president, or Hillary, or Bernie.

all our political rhetoric is fruitless, "we" will be managed by larger interests one way or another. The only way "we" can gain leverage is by reducing the power of the government, and retaining control of our basic decisions in life.

In short, those progressives who spout "Think globally, act locally", and all the pundits who have ever quipped "All politics is local" are right, just not right enough. If you will act in your own interest, you will make better decisions than anyone at any other level can make for you. If you believe in whatever ideal, you can do more for it by acting on your account. Claim your right to clean air, clean water and good environment by refusing to work for or empower the "interests" who are damaging it the most, claim your vote, claim your representative in government, claim your place at the table in deciding your health care.

To the extent we do that, we can claim some degree of influence in the world. And that is, essentially, what the "elites" have been doing on their own account.

If you really want a good life for the ordinary people, you will act to reduce the leverage of the elites/moneyed/disproportionately influential somehow. Right now, the way things are, we need to take some marbles out of the government game, and make it less powerful.
 
2016 Election Analysis

So Game asks will I admit I'm wrong if Hillary wins.

One of my recurrent speculations is that Hillary will win. She is supposed to win. The job belongs to her. She has taken the heat for Benghazi, literally falling on her sword for Obama. She has done everything that's been asked of her. No, there will be no criminal repercussions for anything she has done, it has all been done for the great cause of global fascism, for the benefit of the basic honcho class of people who really do count.

If you want to know what the honcho class really wants, you need to follow the CFR and it's subsidiary local committee clubs around the country. It's a club of sorts where you get invited if it appears you might have some influence in the community. When invited, you get to go to the dinners once a week and listen to the speakers sent around to provide insights into world and national affairs. While they'll take in people with diverse opinions, and it's supposed to be a place where you can share your views with real movers and shakers, and maybe make a difference on your own account, mostly the effect is you get carried with the main current of "progress".

This is not an ideological notion of "progress", but a practical one. The Bigs want to solve problems as they see them, and make the world safe for business and profits. . . safe for themselves, mostly. The government is viewed as the relevant sphere of action to produce those results.

The UN is the world-scale organization that is supposed to produce those results. So of course they recruit the Siros, the Sir Kickies, and anyone else who really has some serious smarts. They love "experts" in every field, provided only that their experts represent some angle particularyly beneficial to their interests.

Bill Clinton, and Hillary are solid with that "establishment". They will not fail to do the "right" things for those interests.

Same with the Bushes from Prescott, GHW, and W, and Jeb. Cruz will probably play the game as well. But his rhetoric about the Constitution makes him a bit awkward. Hillary believes Cruz can be beaten handily. Hillary believed Jeb could beat her out, and probably so could Kasich, Rubio, or Ryan, because. . . . well, they're gonna do the job just as well as her, for the honchos. So HIllary, conceivably, could have wanted a Trump move to bust up the Republican Party game. Trump, conceivably, could have liked the idea of being in the campaign on that basis. For the record, Trump has carried on a friendship of sorts with all kinds of politicians, and it was reported int he Press he spoke to Hillary just before he announced his run. But Trump could actually want the job, too. Undoubtedly, he wants the job. He just thinks he can do a good job with it. Sure he has rubbed shoulders with politicians, and done business with them, and knows the game. But he is a pure alpha character, someone who will do what he wants, not what he's told. That's why he's getting the bad press. Well, that, and his stupidity. . . .

Bernie is an honest, sincere man who simply believes in some ideals of the extreme socialist sort. It's a kind of populism, a kind of "We the People" notion that the government should do a lot of stuff to make the world better. But he has some character flaws. He hates the CFR honchos.

So what's is amazing about this primary election run, is that apparently 70% of Americans are voting against the CFR political honchos, to the best of their understanding. That includes the Bernie supporters, the Cruz supporters, and the Trump supporters.
 
Why?

Saving the Constitution appears to have some numbers. I think about 10%. Mark Levine and Ted Cruz have been talking about this. And although most folks don't make the connection, a lot are just tired of corrupt government and oppressive regulation, and a Supreme Court willing to make basic public policy by edict from the bench, especially after overwhelming votes in many states. It violates the basic premise of government responsive to the ordinary people.

At the time of the American Revolution, the numbers responsive to these ideas was less than ten percent.

But Trump is nothing to do with the Constitution. He represents one-man rule, the alpha male dominant sort of rule. He is basically saying "We ain't gonna take it anymore" and the plain talk about the wall and fixing up the USA to be great again is all in that vein. He has about 15% of the overall electorate on board with his swaggering command.

I think most of the strength in the Republican insurgent side is really an adverse reaction to Obama. It includes reactions to his deliberate and contemptuous provocations like buying up all the ammo and writing law with his pen that nobody but the most fundamentally deranged leftist extremists can swallow, all the stuff the JazzFanzers have been so pleased about. But maybe it is the adverse reaction to Obamacare, the bad economy, the unsustainable deficit. . .. stuff the Republican leadership, the Baynor, Ryan, and McConnells do-nothings are really on board with. As it seems to me, about half of this 25% goes to Trump, halt to Cruz. Only about 10% of republican voters are really saying they're OK with all that, or that another moderate will do enough about it.

So there's what I think is 50% of all Americans.

And there is also about 20% of all Americans who are voting for Bernie because he's their kind of populist. About 5 of that 20 would hate Hillary so bad they would not vote for her against any other choice. Most would go third party, say the Green party, I think.

Even with a torrid mainstream media beating the drums for Hillary, I don't think she can top 45%. And I think she knows it.

Nor has she forgotten the election of 1992, which would have gone to Bush except there was a Texan named Ross Perot who just hated Bush so much he spent his own money to split the Bush vote.

That's why I think the Clintons tapped Trump to trash the Republican side. However, Trump will not be eligible in many states, and does not have the organization and grass roots to make it on the ballot as the third party contender this year. What could happen is about ten percent of voters in his block will stay home, or vote for Hillary, out of spite for the GOP party politics that is going on right now. That's enough to make it a close race. . . .

Alex Jones is all in for Trump, and I've heard a number of lackeys in his camp out crying wolf about Cruz being the Trojan horse New World Order Man, seizing on the likes of Romney and Walker supporting Cruz. I think they're crazed loons, maybe worse than me even. . .lol. . . .but it's enough to cause me to pause and consider it a bit. . . .

Cruz is not Ronald Reagan. He doesn't have the personality, or the long-term understanding and commitment to making a difference. But I think he is making a run on Trump, and could actually get the nomination. If he does, he could lose to Hillary, oh 45-42, with a stellar run-up on the third party tickets like Libertarians and Greens, a protest vote against the One Party with Two Names game we've been played by for so long. That's the only place a real protest vote could go. And most of the energy this year is the Protest against The Way Things Are.
 
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