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Game Thread Mar 11, 2022 06:30PM MT: Jazz at Spurs

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Jazz need to experiment with Gobert as a pick n pop midrange player. He needs more shots and his FT shooting has gotten good enough where I believe in his ability to hit jumpers.
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Handlogten's Heros said:
That little push shot bigs have developed would be good but Rudy is just kinda too awkward for any of the stuff we need.
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This little thing is what separates us from contention methinks. And it happens to be the only really attainable thing that the Jazz can at least try hard right now.


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I have a hard time imagining Quin’s job is safe. This team is showing every indicator of being desperately in need of a new leader. You cannot call a coach who hasn’t gotten out is the second round a top 5 coach in the league. That’s a bad take.

No coach in NBA history has ever taken 8+ years with the same team to win their first title. It’s never happened in league history. Most championship winning coaches win their fist chip no later than their 3rd season. Also, many championship coaches replaced a coach who had a winning record the season prior and many were assistant coaches before getting promoted.
 
Nice choke job.

That said, both the tech on Clarkson and that flagrant on Gobert were such horrible calls. I'm stunned those clowns are NBA refs
 
Supporting a team that is this dreadful at closing games really sucks.

Coming through in the clutch to win close games make the most fun moments and memories for a fan, whereas blowing a big lead late and collapsing to lose a close game makes the worst, most "gut-punch" moments.

This team has a LOT of the latter and virtually none of the former. The Dallas clutch win a couple weeks ago made me feel like a starving man finally given a meal.
 
LoPo said:
I didn't get to watch it but I'm severely disappointed that we let Pop get his record against us. I ****ing hate the Spurs.

Our roster construction since we won that OKC series 4 years ago has been absolutely dreadful. What a wasted era.

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No it is great. We got awsome defender royce bucket o neal with 5 points and 2 rebounds,cluch superstar Don who can't do anything than choke long 3 and turn ball over in every single close 4th q , 40 mil centar who can only dunk and can't catch ball with 3 shoots in game and mr Mike whos playing like g ligue player last month. Sorry if i forgot something..
 
Katastrofica said:
No it is great. We got awsome defender royce bucket o neal with 5 points and 2 rebounds,cluch superstar Don who can't do anything than choke long 3 and turn ball over in every single close 4th q , 40 mil centar who can only dunk and can't catch ball with 3 shoots in game and mr Mike whos playing like g ligue player last month. Sorry if i forgot something..
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You forgot about how we spent our big exceptions on the wonderful talents of Favors and Gay the last few years.

But we are contenders bro....

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Nate505 said:
Nice choke job.

That said, both the tech on Clarkson and that flagrant on Gobert were such horrible calls. I'm stunned those clowns are NBA refs
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The Spurs aren’t very good. Why were we even in a close one? Why let the refs impact the game? We should’ve been up by 20+ if Conley plays decent and we have a starting 3 in our lineup.
 
SoUjazzfan said:
Did anyone see the post game interviews? I'm curious what B.S. they spun after this one.
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This Trib article touches on it a bit. All the video I can find is of course about Popovich being the winningest coach of all time.

www.sltrib.com

Utah Jazz blow another late lead, concede they don’t know what to do about it

After going up 15 points with 10 minutes left Friday, the Utah Jazz get outscored by 17 by the Spurs the rest of the way, and admit they’re at a bit of a loss as to how to stop that harmful trend.
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“At some point, we’re just going to have to sit and look ourselves in the mirror and say, ‘Look, what are we gonna be?’ One through 15,” said Donovan Mitchell, who scored 18 first-half points, then didn’t score again until only 2:05 remained. “It’s tough, it hurts, this sucks, it ain’t fun — I can tell you that right now. I want to say it’s growing pains, I want to say it’s part of that, but … We’ll be better because of this, but this can’t continue to happen. I’ve said this for months. We’ve all said it for months.”
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Yep, saying it for months, not doing **** about it. MONTHS would imply they could have handled the trade deadline way better than the dumpster fire they actually did produce.

Mike Conley, who contributed five rebounds, five assists, and five steals, but who shot 2 for 14, also acknowledged that this has been a conversation the team has had ad nauseum.

“We’ve said that multiple times throughout the year. We said that in Houston [nine days before] when we gave up the lead and they almost came back and won that one. It’s less about us acknowledging the fact that we need to be better — we just have to do it,” he said. “We have to go out there and make those plays and put the pedal to the metal when it’s time. … Obviously, it’s not something that’s new to us as far as having been in this position in the past.”

Great. Fantastic. Sounds good.

Now then … how do you actually stop talking about doing it, and just go out and do it?

There, Mitchell conceded he and his teammates didn’t have a good answer.
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Welp, get ready for more of the same.

Again to me this is coaching. If the coach has plans for his team to handle the different scenarios being thrown at them as they are scouted, the team would not respond like this. This is basically saying "Quin has nothing to offer to help us figure this out. We are on our own to figure it out, I guess." Granted, the players have to figure out how to play the right way, but it starts with the coach providing the plan and the framework and frankly, it isn't there.

Time for a change.
 
So Rudy gets it, but again he gets blasted for not handling their mid-range attack. Good hell look at his line, 13 pts (almost all on put backs or free throws because our "play-makers" cannot figure out how to get him the ball AT ALL), 16 boards, 5 blocks. But of course it was his failure to stop everyone, right? Let's not talk about the turnstyle defense being played by, oh, EVERY SINGLE PERIMETER DEFENDER that sets up the mid-range game to begin with. Hell if the guys defending you will just get out of your way and give you an open 15 footer, hell we will take that all night long. But of course, it was Rudy who, again, couldn't contain THE ENTIRE ****ING TEAM!! Good hell it is so frustrating to see the same thing killing us over and over and over for YEARS and the FO doing jack-**** about it.

From that same Trib article.

Of course they all rattled off some things they can do better.

Rudy Gobert, who finished with 13 points, 16 rebounds, and five blocks, but could not slow down the Spurs’ late midrange assault, said Utah must treat fourth quarters with more importance.

“For us, really, when it’s the fourth quarter, we’ve got to raise our level. It doesn’t matter if we’re down 15, if we’re up 15. We need to have that mindset that when it’s the fourth,” he said. “When we’ve been playing great and we’re up 15, we kind of try to groove into a win, and I don’t think that’s the team we want to be. We can get better in that aspect.

“… It’s frustrating for me and for us as a team to lose those games when we’re the better team for three quarters. It’s really on us to embrace that,” Gobert added. “When it’s the fourth quarter, [treat it like] it’s zero-zero, and we’ve got to win the fourth. Win the fourth, win the game.”
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