I'm not sure what "disagree with an act" is supposed to mean. Calling homosexual sex sinful is hateful. Denying them the right to marry is treating them badly.
Mark Cuban's afraid of the witchhunt. he might think he is next target of the witchunt
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I'm not sure what "disagree with an act" is supposed to mean. Calling homosexual sex sinful is hateful. Denying them the right to marry is treating them badly.
Should 80-year-old women be allowed to marry?
A) No church will be forced to perform any marriage.
B) The "separate but equal" civil union route has been tried in several jurisdictions, and it unnecessarily complicates things, and is generally seen as unsatisfactory by both the individuals and the system.
Here. let's make this a bit clearer, even. So, you say (while leaning on arguments that have been held many times to be legally invalid) that only a man and a woman should be allowed (by the government) to get married. What about transsexuals? Let's say, for argument's sake, that I was originally female, but have had surgeries and hormones and such, and am now legally male, and, to all appearances, am male. My my body produces no sperm. Who would I be allowed to marry?
Hantlers
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We already have a transexual on the board…I don't think we need one more.
Hantlers
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Perhaps you should read what I said about the marriage part.
How do you not know what "disagree with an act" means? Just like pre-marital sex, I disagree with homosexuality.
Calling something a sin isn't hateful, it's a sign of love (when done correctly). Obviously I'm not going to go out like the Westboro people and start condemning people to hell, and I'm not going to tell a stranger that they're sinning either. I tell my friends because I love and care about them. They do the same to me.
BS. It's a sign of ARROGANCE. "I know what's good for you better than you do, and I'm going to tell you every chance I get." How dare you assume that what is right for you is what's right for everyone?
Don't approve of same sex marriage? Don't get one. Ends there. Anything more is attempting to force your beliefs on someone else, and any attempt you make to justify it only shows your hubris.
Hantlers
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So if I think I know something that I think could save everybody, I shouldn't tell them?
Got it.
I'm not attempting to force my beliefs on anybody…share them with everybody? Absolutely. I'm sorry if I've offended you, or that religious people have offended you before, I can assure you that was not my intent. I don't feel like I preach that much, but maybe I do.
So, the obvious is when you're being witch hunted. That's frightening and sucks and all.
But almost as scary; when you realize you're on the bandwagon over something stupid.
DutchJazzer
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i am only of the opinion that they do not fit the requirements to marry. but i wont protest it.
so having an opinion on what they deserve or not is treating them badly?
Huh?
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Is there a quota or something, or are you just being a jerk?
No, you disagree with the people performing the act.
That's a common way we like to delude ourselves.
For reasons that you can't defend rationally, making it hateful.
You are wrong here. Thinking something is a sin, or wrong in some other way, does not always come from a place of hate. Not allowing for that is to black and white of a view. For someone who understands grey areas so well I would have thought you'd understand this basic idea.
DutchJazzer
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still my opinion.
people are forced to hire blacks and homosexual(aka they should not discrimnate aka affirmative actions.
on the other hand people who express their opinions get fired sterling "racist" comments.
and for example mozzilla ceo couple months back ebcause of anti same sex marriage comments.
how si that ****ing FAIR.
my opinion no ss marriage might not sit well with you. but if i own a company and i got 2 candidates for a job, one homosexual who is married. and one straight person who is married. and i chose the straight person because he is in a "normal" marriage. and this comes out i am in trouble with the government.
now if i apply for a job and they find out i am opposed to gay mariage, and thats why i dont get the job. society and government will scream serves you right homophobic peace of ****.
IS that fair?
The hate is often indirect. However, the reason homosexuals are called sinful to begin with is the cultural dislike for homosexuals, expressed in religious dogma. It's hate stamped with the seal of God's approval.
Of course. Feel free to have any hateful opinion you wish to. The only persecution you feel is the cognitive dissonance of holding a hateful position while believing yourself to be a good person.
It's fair because of the difference between being a public representative for a brand and a private citizen. The NBA is protecting their brand, as did Mozilla.
Why would the company find out you approve of hateful policies? In the US, you're not allowed to ask such questions in an interview unless they are relevant to the job (for example, if the job was with a gay advocacy group). Why would you be advertising your position in the interview?
It's bizarre and unrealistic.
jimmy eat jazz
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'Hate the sin, love the sinner' is a mantra mouthed by religious bigots everywhere. In my experience, it's very, very hard to do both, as evidenced by the clear animus of the fundies toward gays. They just can't get over their hate of the sin to see the 'sinners' as actual human beings with the same claims to happiness and fulfillment and love that the fundies posses.
Calling someone a 'sinner' as an act of love is horse crap. Frankly, and I think I speak for many 'sinners' here, I don't give a rat's patootie if you think I'm sinning. Keep it to yourself and worry about your own life. I'm guessing there's plenty of sins you're committing; do you want me to show my 'love' for you by haranguing you over it?
From where I sit, hate, intolerance, bigotry are just as much if not more sins as homosexuality. At least in the latter case, it's not affecting anyone else who doesn't choose to make it their business, while in the previous case, it causes untold harm, physical and emotional.