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Game Thread May 26, 2021 08:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Grizzlies - Game 2

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SoberasHotRod said:
Has anyone mentioned how good Rudy looked catching passes in traffic, and fluidly going to the rim? He was amazing.
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Yes, I was going to comment on how good his hands were.
I mean he attempted 11 shots (he averages 8 attempts per game) and went to the line 8 times (he averages 5 free throw attempts per game) so he was getting a lot more touches than usual and I can't remember him bobbling any passes.
He ended up with only 1 turnover.

They should get him involved in the offense like that more often.

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DasJazz said:
Some things are more important in life. A wedding reception during the Jazz game is not one of them.
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I remember accidentally having my wedding the day of BYU vs Utah, but was made easier by the fact that was the year the utes cracked the bcs bowls under Alex Smith and Urban Meyer and game was a blowout so good game to miss. Lol
 
I don't trust Oni. He has good size and quickness but he seems always too "polite" on defense. He sure often stays in front of guys but they end up shooting and hitting against him anyway. Forrest actually looks more pesky to me, he plays harder. Problem is he shoots the 3 much worse than Oni. But on the other hand he was pretty good at finishing in the paint or drawing the fouls, something Oni doesn't even try. So if we were to experiment and try somebody to bother Morant for some posessions I would rather give Trent a chance.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
What's crazy is that Dillion Brooks has some of the worst advanced stats in the NBA for a player who plays as much as he does.

His super-impactful positive minutes are a huge fluke.
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More often than not he chucks the Grizzlies out of games. Dude's got both a season and career average 42 FG% (35% from 3).

We'll see if he can keep shooting 58% from the field and 57% from 3 throughout this series. One thing that's clear is he can't guard Mitchell.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
What's crazy is that Dillion Brooks has some of the worst advanced stats in the NBA for a player who plays as much as he does.

His super-impactful positive minutes are a huge fluke.
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And his defense, IMO, is pretty over-rated. The dude over commits and fouls like crazy on D.
 
candrew said:
I will say he's one of those guys, like Marcus Smart, who doesn't necessarily have good numbers but, warts and all, finds ways to be impactful
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Marcus Smart has pretty good advanced defensive metrics though, so it shows up in some way.
 
MT Steve said:
More often than not he chucks the Grizzlies out of games. Dude's got both a season and career average 42 FG% (35% from 3).

We'll see if he can keep shooting 58% from the field and 57% from 3 throughout this series. One thing that's clear is he can't guard Mitchell.
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He's doing well at the rim and getting more attempts there... he also is killing it in the mid range. He is pretty comfortable there right now so I'm not sure he gets down to his career averages.

I do think they should have Rudy come up hard on his drives... he ain't looking to pass and won't burn you like Ja can. Snuff out a few of the shots at the rim and it will help.

The guy is solid but he's also a clown show. Watching him complain about the charge was high comedy... not only did you put your elbows up on the guys face but he was also in position... acted like someone stole his damn candy.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He's doing well at the rim and getting more attempts there... he also is killing it in the mid range. He is pretty comfortable there right now so I'm not sure he gets down to his career averages.

I do think they should have Rudy come up hard on his drives... he ain't looking to pass and won't burn you like Ja can. Snuff out a few of the shots at the rim and it will help.

The guy is solid but he's also a clown show. Watching him complain about the charge was high comedy... not only did you put your elbows up on the guys face but he was also in position... acted like someone stole his damn candy.
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Yeah, I am a bit disappointed in Snyder this series. It feels like we're running a defense designed to stop a completely different type of offense than what we're actually going against.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Marcus Smart has pretty good advanced defensive metrics though, so it shows up in some way.
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I think they are different players but share a similar characteristic... if there is a lot of Marcus Smart things happening then things are either going really well or really bad. Both guys can get a little in over their heads.

Kyle Anderson is the dude that has impressed me on defense. His advanced metrics have been good for a while and you can see it watching him this closely.

The current starting lineup for the Grizz gives them pretty great balance... it was really good in the regular season but hardly ever played together because of injuries. This team is actually pretty good and we shouldn't be nearly as dismissive as we have been. That lineup is also positive for this series.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Kyle Anderson is the dude that has impressed me on defense. His advanced metrics have been good for a while and you can see it watching him this closely.

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Love Kyle Anderson - he's come along far enough on his 3 point shot to where he's pretty dependable on open looks.

He's a UFA after next season - would love for Utah to make a run.
 
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MT Steve said:
Yeah, I am a bit disappointed in Snyder this series. It feels like we're running a defense designed to stop a completely different type of offense than what we're actually going against.
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I’m hoping he has his change up and is waiting for the right time to adjust. Ja is the bigger problem imo... I think Brooks will cool at some point... at least a little... I also thought Murray would cool at some point last year.

Guys percentages will increase when they know the shots they can get and you aren’t making them uncomfortable. Again... we may not have the personnel to make them uncomfortable so the scheme has to adjust. Last night was a tough night to do it with how many fouls they were calling. Niang tried and got called for a touch foul.

Perimeter defense, rotating, and connectivity would go a long way... watching Lakers Suns you see so much of this... I’d think our guys can do better, but this scheme and some of our principles seem sort of lazy at times.
 
candrew said:
Love Kyle Anderson - he's come along far enough on his 3 point shot to where he's pretty dependable on open looks.

He's a UFA after next season - would love for Utah to make a run.
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I suggested trading for him this offseason using expiring contracts and many were not with it at all. Not that they would have but having his perimeter defense with Rudy’s rim protection would be fun.
 
White Chocolate said:
As of right now we are -5 point favorites for Saturday’s game at Memphis.
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Of course we are the favorites.
I think it's silly that anyone would have them as the favorites after the first 2 games (and 72 regular season games in which we swept them head to head).

I mean the grizzlies barely beat us with no Donovan, Rudy fouling out in 25 minutes, brooks having the best game of his career, jazz having their 2nd worst shooting game of the season, memphis getting a favorable whistle and then they lose by double digits in a wire to wire leading game by the jazz when they also have one of their players score a franchise high and our star was still limited.

Make no mistake, the jazz are the favorites and would be up 2-0 is they just have a bad shooting night in game one instead of an atrocious shooting night, OR if Donovan played, OR if Rudy didn't get screwed by the refs, OR brooks has a good game instead of a career night, OR bogey scores more than zero points in the first half and Clarkson doesn't have one of his worst games ever.

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