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Met D-Will this weekend.

Just curious. Who would take Deron for a guaranteed 3 years in exchange for Favors, Kanter, Harris, and the GS pick?
 
PKM said:
Just curious. Who would take Deron for a guaranteed 3 years in exchange for Favors, Kanter, Harris, and the GS pick?
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For real. not being a hater. I would not knowing what I know about him and that is he is not a leader and a cancer, like the WHOLE colon cancer.
 
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I've moved on, but to not want Deron back is ****ing lunacy. Even if it didn't work out the second time around, you CAN still trade him (and get another haul).
 
I wouldn't mind Deron coming back once AK and Memo are gone. I get the feeling he'd be a little happier playing under Corbin and Hornacek, and by that time Hayward could be an all-star caliber player.
 
PKM said:
Just curious. Who would take Deron for a guaranteed 3 years in exchange for Favors, Kanter, Harris, and the GS pick?
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you mean for the exact same trade package we gave him up for? the trade you floated there just undoes the february trade... you probably know that, which means you're most likely trying to make a point. so what's the point?
 
PKM said:
Just curious. Who would take Deron for a guaranteed 3 years in exchange for Favors, Kanter, Harris, and the GS pick?
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No way I would. Not simply because I feel the value of Favors, Kanter, Harris, and GS pick outweigh Deron's value. But he already (supposedly) had one foot out the door. So why would we want him back for one year?
 
theNBAnerd said:
you mean for the exact same trade package we gave him up for? the trade you floated there just undoes the february trade... you probably know that, which means you're most likely trying to make a point. so what's the point?
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I think it's pretty obvious that his point deals with the fact that we knew DWill was on his way out. Given that knowledge, the deal KOC pulled off was a no-brainer. But if you could have Deron for another 3 years guaranteed, would you stick with him, or stick with the pieces we got from NJ?
 
margodydek said:
I think it's pretty obvious that his point deals with the fact that we knew DWill was on his way out. Given that knowledge, the deal KOC pulled off was a no-brainer. But if you could have Deron for another 3 years guaranteed, would you stick with him, or stick with the pieces we got from NJ?
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i guess in my mind it comes down to this -- was deron going to lead us to a championship in the next three years? if the answer is no, then doesn't it make sense to reload for the future?

of course, that question begs the subsequent one: are favors, kanter and harris going to lead us to a championship in the next five? the answer there might not be much more likely than the other one, but at least you give yourself a chance by starting over with some young talent on rookie contracts.
 
Don't know if anyone knew this or not, but the Mavericks 5-year window closed about 4 years ago.
 
I'm not saying the Jazz didn't make a good deal, but trading a known elite player for prospects is never a sure thing. I look at it as a deal that made more financial sense given the CBA uncertainty less an equitable deal. But I'll never understand how Deron gets minimalized slash slandered to make it sound like a Win Win. The guy is a flat out stud. From a purely Vegas Odds standpoint, we'll be really lucky if any of the players we acquired in that deal become as good as he is. I'll never root against the Jazz, but I'll always root for Deron.
 
billyshelby said:
I'm not saying the Jazz didn't make a good deal, but trading a known elite player for prospects is never a sure thing. I look at it as a deal that made more financial sense given the CBA uncertainty less an equitable deal. But I'll never understand how Deron gets minimalized slash slandered to make it sound like a Win Win. The guy is a flat out stud. From a purely Vegas Odds standpoint, we'll be really lucky if any of the players we acquired in that deal become as good as he is.
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We'll be really surprised if any of the players we acquired in that deal become as expensive as he is, either. I like Deron, too, and he is a special player--top 10 or 20 in the league--but he wasn't enough of a leader to justify keeping him, and he was sucking up too much payroll.

Not since Magic Johnson (who isn't a conventional PG) has a point guard been the cornerstone of a title team. More than $15 million was too much money to pay for a floor general; recent ring-wearing PGs Derek Fisher and Rajon Rondo earn far less and even Tony Parker doesn't hit CP3's or DW8's pay scale. (Current champ Jason Kidd was clearly overpaid.)

Unlike the money-losing Nets, Utah minimized their financial losses for the near term by unloading their most expensive player. Now their #2 or #3 lineup can potentially be completely filled with lottery picks: Harris (#4), Burks (#12), Hayward (#9), Favors (#3), and Kanter (#3).

And as long as Jefferson doesn't play convincing defense, I'd be all for giving the above lineup a chance for several minutes per game--and reward the lineup or minimize it from there.
 
Gameface said:
I disagree. I loved the guy until I met him at a season ticket holder autograph party. After that I wanted to punch him in the face. Then I started to notice how much of a whiny jerk he was on the court. He's a great player, but i don't like the guy and I think the Jazz are going to come out better having traded him.
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This, GREAT player, but whinner and not the leader we needed, IMO.
 
The only time Derron is going to come back to Utah is to smoke us at the Energy Solutions Arena and that's it.
 
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