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SGJazz

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I don't think most people realise how tough Millsap has been. Clearly he has been banged up throughout the season. Yet people choose to slaughter him on his un-Boozerlike stats. Look at how many games Boozer has missed already with his new team.

Millsap is the epitome of toughness and I'd pick him any day over Boozer. True, he cannot match Boozer's day to day stats. But if you divide their total stats (points rebounds whatever) by the number of team games, regardless of how many individual games they actually play, you'd see why Millsap is better man.

For example as of today Jazz have played 49 games (don't care how many games he actually played in)
Millsap has a total points and rebounds of 809 and 373 respectively
So divided by 49 that's 16.5ppg and 7.6rpg

Bulls have played in 47 games. I don't know how many games Boozer has missed but his totals are 577 and 297 for points and rebounds.
So his REAL ppg is 12.3 and rpg is 6.3.

At the end of the season divide the totals by 82 and you'll see it clearer.

Anyway, no stats can account for the grit that Sap has. But this shows the real impact the player has over the season.

My point is what's the point of averaging 20-10 when you only play half the time? Hope nba starts to recognise players based on per team game value rather than per personal game value.

If Boozer was suffering from the problems Millsap is facing, he'd have retired from this season. Sorry Boozer fans.
 
You really want to get Sloanfeld and Salty Dawg going on this again. Drop it. We have Millsap and Loozers gone - end of story.
 
SGJazz said:
I don't think most people realise how tough Millsap has been. Clearly he has been banged up throughout the season. Yet people choose to slaughter him on his un-Boozerlike stats. Look at how many games Boozer has missed already with his new team.

Millsap is the epitome of toughness and I'd pick him any day over Boozer. True, he cannot match Boozer's day to day stats. But if you divide their total stats (points rebounds whatever) by the number of team games, regardless of how many individual games they actually play, you'd see why Millsap is better man.

For example as of today Jazz have played 49 games (don't care how many games he actually played in)
Millsap has a total points and rebounds of 809 and 373 respectively
So divided by 49 that's 16.5ppg and 7.6rpg

Bulls have played in 47 games. I don't know how many games Boozer has missed but his totals are 577 and 297 for points and rebounds.
So his REAL ppg is 12.3 and rpg is 6.3.

At the end of the season divide the totals by 82 and you'll see it clearer.

Anyway, no stats can account for the grit that Sap has. But this shows the real impact the player has over the season.

My point is what's the point of averaging 20-10 when you only play half the time? Hope nba starts to recognise players based on per team game value rather than per personal game value.

If Boozer was suffering from the problems Millsap is facing, he'd have retired from this season. Sorry Boozer fans.
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The beauty of twisting stats to your needs and beliefs.
 
Fits the model that says that 57.8% of all stats are made up on the spot.
 
SGJazz said:
Millsap is the epitome of toughness and I'd pick him any day over Boozer. True, he cannot match Boozer's day to day stats. But if you divide their total stats (points rebounds whatever) by the number of team games, regardless of how many individual games they actually play, you'd see why Millsap is better man.

For example as of today Jazz have played 49 games (don't care how many games he actually played in)
Millsap has a total points and rebounds of 809 and 373 respectively
So divided by 49 that's 16.5ppg and 7.6rpg

Bulls have played in 47 games. I don't know how many games Boozer has missed but his totals are 577 and 297 for points and rebounds.
So his REAL ppg is 12.3 and rpg is 6.3.
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Is Sloanfeld the same guy as SimpleMan or whatever that guys name was before that...Utaheel or whatever? Only because he always rocked the Kramer image and now they kinda seem like the same guy
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
Boozer can get defensive rebounds though
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by pushing his teammates out of the way?

by not boxing out, just trying to outjump? (which was effective and payed dividends to him because of the way he tried (tried?, really?) to stop opposing players)

Sure. You're right.

You CANNOT blame just BigAl and Paul for the rebounding problems of the Jazz. Rebounding is a teamwork and everybody should help each other and especially guards should play much more physical. The solution is a better, more focused effort to make good, proper rotations on help defense (sometimes overhelping - a direct resuılt of miscommunication/lack of communication and more importantly, lack of trust) to not be in a tough situation to box out the opponent (whoever he is, a guard, a wing) by anybody.
 
Sap is easily tougher than Boozer. That would have probably kept Booze out of the lineup for a week.
 
Nate505 said:
Sap is easily tougher than Boozer. That would have probably kept Booze out of the lineup for a week.
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Thanks. That actually summed up my long winded post.

But the reason why i "created" those stats is to show impact the player has over 82 games. Not just in the games he played. Because I feel players should be recognised for being durable and for keeping themselves durable throughout 82 games. (Best examples would of course be Stockton and Malone)

Of course, some injuries are freak injuries which can't be helped. But overall being durable, as well as the ability to play through pain, is a big part of being a great player. And those stats I showed illustrate that. Being injury prone is far more psychological than physical. And Millsap and Boozer are at opposite ends of the spectrum
 
Let's revisit this topic in the playoffs. After all, Boozer has NEVER missed a playoff game. You are overrating the regular season. Every team has injuries, except the Thunder.
 
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