What a great example of the mind-set that treats women like prizes to be claimed, instead of people. Thank you.
More death threats -- Woman take video of her walk through New York
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What a great example of the mind-set that treats women like prizes to be claimed, instead of people. Thank you.
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Part of the issue seems to be that some women prefer to be treated that way
Stop speaking for women. That's his job. Line stepper.
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Right, and the prescription drug use in suburbia obviously has the same impact on street harassment as crack/heroin does in big cities. There's probably just as any people in Heber that take drugs and hang out on the street as in big cities. At this point, you are just trying to deflect attention elsewhere, since you want to argue over the similarities in drug use, rather than the relationship between drugs and street harassment. You don't care about objectivity, but winning an argument by any means possible, including posting links to crap that does nothing to prove your point, or by changing the argument to something else entirely.
This sounds like Tony Kornheiser's theory of population.
I haven't met any, but they certainly might exist.
As a percentage, there are just as many that take illegal drugs. In wealthier neighborhoods, fewer hand out on the street.
1) It was you that was trying to use drugs to say there would be a difference in street harassment (in this post), despite that there is no difference in the percentage of women who report being harassed and no difference in the rate of usage of alcohol and illegal drugs.
2) What is the relationship between drugs and street harassment? Do you have any evidence beyond your opinion?
3) If alcohol/cocaine/etc. does make it more likely you will harass, do you have a reason for saying this applies in Chicago and not Heber City?
Again, you brought drug use into this argument, based on an incorrect fact, not I.
Could have reeled in some prime ***** yesterday. I sat next to her on the subway and didn't look at her the entire trip. She must have gotten off just behind me because when we landed she gently touched my shoulder. This woman was gorgeous, iimssm. She said that she was aroused by my ability to make her seem as if she didn't exist and would like to fornicate with me. Naturally, I didn't respond and walked away. ****ing hate when people approach me without a formal or informal invitation.
Stop harrasing her (letting your shoulder contact her fingers) and this wont be a problem.
She said she wanted to fornicate with you? She actually used that word? I'm calling BS on this story. Women don't talk like that. I've never in my life heard a woman use that particular term.
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Already addressed. You probably just accidentally missed it.
Intoxicated people are more likely to act inappropriately. People who have serious addiction problems often end up homeless, and on the streets, where they are often intoxicated or under the influence. Not only that, but these people often migrate to cities, for obvious reasons. Then again, I'm starting to realize nothing is obvious in this thread, so I better expound. They move to cities because of better access to drugs, panhandling opportunities, shelters, among other things. These people do not generally migrate to rural areas. Some of the locals might stay in a rural area, but many relocate to cities.
Yes, I will post some general links with lots of big words, but little to do with my point, later.
First off, lol at if. Kind of hard to take you serious when dance around common knowledge. Go to a bar sometime. Secondly, walk by 50 intoxicated people compared to 5. Which one has a greater probability for harassment? Equal, right?
I wasn't wrong, but I should have been more specific. Comparing drug use between the two populations is irrelevant to a discussion of what actually happens on the street, as the homeless population is not taken into consideration. If you were to actually go out on the street in the city(not rural), the results are going to be different than polling the general population, due to the high rate of usage among the homeless(around 65%). Obviously cities vary, as do areas in that city.
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Just for kicks and giggles though, here is the info you linked supporting your idea that people on the street in rural areas are just as likely to be under the influence as in big cities. I'll entertain the possibility of you being right, but if you could just highlight the parts that prove such, it would be a great help.
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My mistake. She said copulate.
Perhaps you should explain what "potential for harassment" means, and why it casts any doubt on the percentage of women who report being harassed. You are throwing in a lot of ideas with very little connection between them.
Little is obvious in your posts because you are making connections that haven't been supported, and many of them don't make sense at all. They seem like they are built out of tropes you have watched on mass media.
1. Intoxication affects different people differently, and different types of the intoxication affect the same person differently. While I have not used marijuana nor heroin, every thing I have read about them says they make people less likely to engage in an aggressive activity like harassment. Even with alcohol, it's very nature as depressant means that, for some people, their boisterousness is reduced.
2. You seem to be focusing a lot on the homeless, without any good reason to believe the homeless sexually harass more frequently than any other group ("Sommers says so" is not a good reason). Yes, the homeless have a higher rate of intoxication, but they have other factors going on that limit their behavior towards people, as well. Now, if you were saying that homeless people are more likely to approach people, period, I would agree. However, we are talking specifically about catcalling. Most of the time people don't catcall someone whom they're trying to get money out of.
3. There is no better access to drugs in inner cities, because drugs are ubiquitous. They are just as easy to access in the suburbs and rural areas.
4. Depending on the area, there may be better access to some resources in urban areas. However, one of the characteristics of the homeless is that they do not, compared to the poor but not homeless, take full advantage of resources. They may migrate, but it's probably due more to interactions with police than it is to rational decisions about helpful programs.
You can't do any worse than you are doing while blathering on in ignorance.
I suppose laughing out load and claiming common knowledge is a great way of saying you have no evidence and don't care about evidence, to the extent that you think people behave the same way in a bar as they do walking down the street.
If waling by 5 men, not drunk, gives you a 95% possibility hearing a harassing comment, how much higher will that be raised by their being drunk? Without a baseline to compare it to, your association is meaningless.
So, to be clear about what happens on the street: the same percentage of women report being harassed, regardless of location. If you are saying some are harassed more frequently, I acknowledge that likely. If not, you are being very unclear on what your objection is.
Just for kicks and giggles, you could pretend that I only linked one source, not two, that I did not pull out the relevant sentences directly (link), and that there could be such a thing as proof in these sorts of studies. Never mind, you already did.
Proof is for mathematics and alcohol. There is either evidence of a relationship, or no evidence of a relationship. There is no proof that vaccines don't cause autism. What we have are many studies, over a long period of time, that show there is no relationship between rates of vaccination and autism rates. Every sensible person knows this means vaccines don't cause autism. Similarly, we have many studies, over a long period of time, that show alcohol and illegal drug usage are relatively constant across the economic spectra, and this is widely acknowledged as evidence by every sensible person that poor people don't use drugs more than the wealthy.
When Sommers referenced homeless people in her video, she was tapping into social tropes about the homeless and counting on non-skeptical listeners to rely on these tropes their evaluation of street sexual harassment (possibly without realizing it).
Naturally!
This seems like an intentionally inflammatory thread title and initial post.
Come clean One Brow, what is your agenda here?
Culture change. I could have sworn I have mentioned that before. People don't change unless they know something is wrong with the way things are.
Honest question. Do women need to change as well, or is this all on the dirty rotten men?
Seriously, this thread title makes it sound as though the woman took a video of all the death threats she was getting as she walked through New York.
Were you intentionally trying to make NYC seem dangerous? Why?
Damn, girl. Putting in work. Thanks for the shout out. Holla.