SiroMar's true colors showing through. What a surprise just like this thread.
Normally your trolling is fine but you are off base and i would appreciate you choosing another target.
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Normally your trolling is fine but you are off base and i would appreciate you choosing another target.
Though you might refer to yourself as a dick, I get the sense that you share your views and sometimes attack others while meaning well. You get passionate about issues not because you just feel like thing a dump on the views of others, rather you are actively trying to share views that seem to explain things so well in your conscience, and help others to achieve this as well. This is largely one of the reasons I like you so much, despite you being pretty much a poster that has questioned (sometimes insulted) my faith more than most.
All you need to remember is that some can feel a similar (sometimes, even higher) feeling of fulfillment in their mentality and spirituality, without needing to share views analogous to yoursWhich I'm sure you know.
Sorry, but I just remembered to respond. I read it late last night.
What you're saying is true, of course. But, like we've discussed in a million debate, not all religion is the same. It is unfortunate that when I attack Islam, I am attacking you. You know the type of Islam I'm attacking. There's no way for me to describe it without being insulting. But that is not the worst thing about religion to me. The worst thing about it is that no matter how vicious and destructive a set of believers are, there will be many who are good and decent people. And by being good and decent, you protect them. And by taking offense, you shield them. You, or PKM or Colton or babe or whoever, make such a good case about respecting religious sentiment. But you are not the only ones. Far from it.
So what about the other side? What about those so-called fanatics? They have faith too! And their faith gives them comfort and fulfillment too! And just as I accept your take on Islam, the other side has its supporters too. And oh how many they have!
I should just stand aside and watch? I don't think I can. And it makes me question deeply the value of faith, and whatever fulfillment it brings. Specially when that fulfillment comes at a price. And it is a price we ALL share. Must I pay that price quietly? Why? Because it gives them fulfillment? **** No. Fulfillment can go **** itself. Instead, I say we go for TRUTH. And if feelings are hurt in the process, then so be it!
SiroMar's true colors showing through. What a surprise just like this thread.
What colors might those be?
I'm not certain the record is totally clear on Joseph Smith and violence. There's that whole Danite thing after all. And that's before we even get into Porter Rockwell.
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pickledXgrandma
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Peaceful? A little research tells otherwise, but then you can't believe everything you read on the internet!
The Thriller
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Please, enlighten the board with your facts.
CONAN
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You didn't start this thread with good intentions. And given how quickly you attacked anyone intimating as much, I'd say that's true. Thus, your true colors shining through. You remind me of high-horsers like PKM.
I'm in good company with Siro. Thanks.
My intention was not to get people to attack Mormonism. I never found Mormonism specially bothersome, and I prefer my arguments on religion to be a bit more general. It is nice that the conversation evolved into a discussion of what is and isn't appropriate when it comes to religion. And I wish I had the prescience to plan that.
And my comment on you reminding me of BYU students also had nothing to do with Mormonism. You possess the kind of arrogance that can only come from a limited perspective.
So who was Porter Rockwell and what was his role in the church?
He was the church's assassin.
The dude on the right in Conan's avatar??
CONAN
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I get it. It wasn't supposed to be inflammatory or offensive. Of course of course. It was just a moronic mistake.
A high-horsed moron with bad intentions is not a good combination.
Ladies and gentelmen I give you "exhibit A"
I think you misunderstand, so let me put this in the simplest way I can. I am not apologizing for anything. I do not regret starting this thread. The fact that you're offended by it means nothing to me. I don't care, not even the tiniest bit, about your supposed right not to have your feelings hurt. I was simply explaining that I did not create this thread with the intention to attack Mormonism.
There are a lot of ex-Mormons in Utah who are actively opposed to the LDS church. And good for them. They have as much right to their opinion as you do yours. But I did not grow up in your religion, and it never played an important part in my life. I view it the same way I view any other peaceful religion; a flaw that we'd be better off without, but one I can live with.
Long story short, go ahead and be offended. I won't be losing any sleep over it. Is that clear enough?
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CONAN
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Let me put this simply. I don't believe you. Not even the tiniest bit. And sorry but my feelings aren't hurt. Why would they be? Just calling you out on your BS. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. I don't care, not even the tiniest bit, about your supposed right not to be called out on your BS.
Oh, so that's why you started this thread. Because you don't care. Makes so much sense now.
Believe what you will then, kid.
The Thriller
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No clue. Enlighten the board please.