looking at actual evidence is not attempting to prove a negative, what in the world are you talking about?
Most hated (NOT on Jazz Team) Players in NBA... and....why?
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looking at actual evidence is not attempting to prove a negative, what in the world are you talking about?
friendsinmyhead
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Kobe, TD's cryin face,Crymello, Kenyon Martin.
But the most hated all time....... Derrick "Dbag" Coleman - Fat, lazy, paycheck cashin, banruptcy filing, Karl Malone hatin, chucker with no heart.
But the most hated all time....... Derrick "Dbag" Coleman - Fat, lazy, paycheck cashin, banruptcy filing, Karl Malone hatin, chucker with no heart.
You want to prove that something did not happen. Unless you're talking about very specific instances, it doesn't work that way. You are trying to make this absurd point that the Jazz teams of old weren't dirty. You can't prove what they weren't unless you assume we're to sit down and watch 20 seasons of basketball.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence#.22You_can.27t_prove_a_negative.22
kwb
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What team back then wasn't dirty? The only reason you hardly find any players being dirty these days is due to the plague of flopping the Euros brought over. They learned that from playing soccer. One more reason I hate that sport.
As a kid I remember either hearing an interview with Stockton or some one about him who said Stockton would some times hit the shooting elbow of players to throw their shot off. Nothing huge but just a slit nudge. You can't due that now because players act like they have been hit in the coin purse with a sledge hammer.
As a kid I remember either hearing an interview with Stockton or some one about him who said Stockton would some times hit the shooting elbow of players to throw their shot off. Nothing huge but just a slit nudge. You can't due that now because players act like they have been hit in the coin purse with a sledge hammer.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Yeah, fixed his post.
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Not even Olajuwon?? I always thought the guy was a stud, and a great person
midnight_hwy
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Haha... yup even Ol' Hakeem on one of our very own former Jazz players... the Whooper himself... Billy Paultz
https://youtu.be/oP2arvqstu8
Clyde Drexler always seemed like a class act to me.
What cracks me up about that video is all the giant ***** Houston douchebag fans who whine and cry like the ******* they are about how the Jazz got away with so much stuff, yet here is their hall of famer delivering a cheap shot that would have made Karl proud.
Lakers_Slapper
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I'm torn on this part. I feel Olajuwon was a great person too. I rememeber during the month of April and May he would fast for his religion, eating no solid foods, only some liquids he was allowed to eat. After a couple weeks into his fast, they had to drastically reduce his minutes due to fatigue early in the game He also donated a great majority of his earning to Africa. He also started a shoe line with K-mart in 1996, so that kids that didnt come from rich homes could afford a quality shoe. He would give more than 100% which you dont find in players now days. -I loved him for that. But I also remember him (while playing the Jazz in the playoffs) getting away with 5 step-no dribble travel's and that was frustrating. I guess I respect him as a person and a basketball fan, but cant stand him being a Jazz fan. But that is one guy that really cant be hated.
Lakers_Slapper
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Damn! After watching that video, to hell with Hakeem. That was Manu Ginobili cheap, f*** him.
Instead of framing my position for me, you could read what I actually wrote and address that directly.
I never asked you to prove a negative. Even if we allow you to frame the entire discussion,
asking you to demonstrate that the Jazz are dirtier than others is not asking you to prove a negative.
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Physical play has been restricted lately, but I would hardly say that there is no dirty play. I still see stars like Kobe get away with intentionally sticking an elbow or shoulder in somebody's face often. Flopping is worse than ever, i would consider that "dirty", (we haven't defined the word.)
Players are allowed to undercut drivers as much as ever, and often get a foul called on the driver in the process. Players with more status are still allowed to do more pushing than others while fighting for position.
billyshelby
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The only guys I really dislike are guys who act way better than they are. In the old days I hated Steve Francis. Marbury fits the bill. Kenyon Martin. TMac tops my recent list, though he's so irrelevant now it isn't fun to hate him anymore. I never liked Isiah because he was so cocky, but he could back it up and you had to respect that. Same goes with Carmello. I have a good feeling Evan Turner could join this club, but he may never be good enough to hate.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Gotta give you props for the ability to post two such diametrically opposite opinions in the span of eight minutes. Only a true fan could recover from a moment of logical and fair minded sportsmanship so quickly. It warms my heart to see fanaticism at this level. Nicely done!
Brown Notes
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I've always hated this ugly little troll.
Edit: sorry he's not bigger. I bet he is too.
Edit: sorry he's not bigger. I bet he is too.
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In all honesty, every member from the 2001-2002 Kings teams gets tremendous respect from me, especially Bibby Divac and Webber for being unnaturally proffesional in probably the worst officiated series in NBA history. I almost wanted the Heat to win this year, just because of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEbgdV1b6ng&feature=channel_video_title
Joe, I hate to go against you and take Lakersslapper's side, but why is it fairminded and logical to love Akeem when video shows that he was a dirty player that punched people in the face, along with getting away with 20 travels a game? You are the one showing dumb fanaticism in this instance.