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Its unbelievable how quickly people forget that is was America, a mostly white Christian America that went over to Germany and fought Hitler. Thousand of lives were lost in name of fighting prejudice and racism. Those same people who fought that war are now are being accused of being racists and being compared to Hitler.

The disrespect for America and white people is un ****ing real right now.

You do know that Hitler was a white Christian, right?
 
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Its unbelievable how quickly people forget that is was America, a mostly white Christian America that went over to Germany and fought Hitler. Thousand of lives were lost in name of fighting prejudice and racism.

Not to dismiss America's influence in second world war as every lost life is precious but Hitler was defeated by Soviet Union ( they lost more than 10 million lives). All other countries helped the cause ( Canada lost 40.000 lives for example ), but give credit where its due.
 
Its unbelievable how quickly people forget that is was America, a mostly white Christian America that went over to Germany and fought Hitler. Thousand of lives were lost in name of fighting prejudice and racism. Those same people who fought that war are now are being accused of being racists and being compared to Hitler.

The disrespect for America and white people is un ****ing real right now.

So maybe Christians should revolt from this country and go find another country that they can rape, murder and pillage its natives and take it over, that would solve things.

Oh WWII where over 125,000 black soldiers from the US fought some of which were not given a choice. All of which were forced to be in seperate lower quality living quarters and who were not allowed to be at the parades celebrating soldiers. Who were fighting against a white christian man.

Your right we should be proud of the white culture and history of the United States. We have a rich history of killing the natives. Forcing our own citizens that are different color from the majority into internment camps. Capturing foreign citizens and bringing them here as slaves.

I guess the best solution is to get mad at anyone who brings up the current race problems that we have in this country and blame them for causing those. The Black Lives matter, Obama, Kaep and so forth those are the real race problems right? They bring up issues that make people uncomfortable and we should sweep them under the table and pretend like racism isnt a problem because you think you treat everyone the same. Lets pretend like black people are getting treated equal. Lets ignore that 1 out of 3 Black males will go to prison and they there are ridiculously over represented in the prison and mistreated along the entire process, from being pulled over at a higher rate to being given longer sentences than their white peers and not being given parole at the same rate as their white peers. A lot of the crime that black people are arrested for is drugs, yet statistics show black people are no more likely to use or sell drugs than white people yet they are arrested for it at almost 3-4X the rate of white people. Once convicted of felonies people lose their right to vote and the right to proper representation which is happening at an unjust rate compounding the problems as well as the wages that are lost from being a former inmate puts you in poverty. 1/2 of black kids go to high poverty schools were dropouts from all races are much higher. Black kids who drop out are twice as likely to be unemployed compared to white kids because of stereotypes. The same is true of black people with college education, they are 2X more likely to not be able to get a job after graduating, which is compounded by the fact that they are more likely to have a poor family so they cant fall back on them like their white counterparts do after graduating.Black people are poorly represented in the Government at 8% despite being 13% of the population. Should we also ignore that it is well documented that a person with a white name is much more likely to get a job or called for an interview than a person with a black name with an equal resume. The list goes on with how people of minority are being held down in this country because of their made up perceived race and that has been compounded over many generations to make the problem worse. Yes a black person can succeed but odds are against them. Escaping poverty is difficult for many reasons one of which is the mindset and the way you taught by your parents and community.

No one is calling you evil they are just asking you to look at the injustices happening and try and be apart of the solution and not ignore it. It is a fact that society in general and most individuals make judgements about people based on their skin color that is hurting them. Very few people if any think that we want to enslave a race or exterminate a race, they do think that they are not being treated equal and almost every study and fact has proven this. Yes we have gotten better as a society but that does not mean its solved. You claiming this is a war on white people and trying to make yourself a victim is wrong and is making the problem worse. You are not being shamed, you are being asked to treat people equally and to help others do the same. Having light shined onto that issue might make you uncomfortable but that is a small price to pay for what others are going through.
 
So maybe Christians should revolt from this country and go find another country that they can rape, murder and pillage its natives and take it over, that would solve things.

Oh WWII where over 125,000 black soldiers from the US fought some of which were not given a choice. All of which were forced to be in seperate lower quality living quarters and who were not allowed to be at the parades celebrating soldiers. Who were fighting against a white christian man.

Your right we should be proud of the white culture and history of the United States. We have a rich history of killing the natives. Forcing our own citizens that are different color from the majority into internment camps. Capturing foreign citizens and bringing them here as slaves.

I guess the best solution is to get mad at anyone who brings up the current race problems that we have in this country and blame them for causing those. The Black Lives matter, Obama, Kaep and so forth those are the real race problems right? They bring up issues that make people uncomfortable and we should sweep them under the table and pretend like racism isnt a problem because you think you treat everyone the same. Lets pretend like black people are getting treated equal. Lets ignore that 1 out of 3 Black males will go to prison and they there are ridiculously over represented in the prison and mistreated along the entire process, from being pulled over at a higher rate to being given longer sentences than their white peers and not being given parole at the same rate as their white peers. A lot of the crime that black people are arrested for is drugs, yet statistics show black people are no more likely to use or sell drugs than white people yet they are arrested for it at almost 3-4X the rate of white people. Once convicted of felonies people lose their right to vote and the right to proper representation which is happening at an unjust rate compounding the problems as well as the wages that are lost from being a former inmate puts you in poverty. 1/2 of black kids go to high poverty schools were dropouts from all races are much higher. Black kids who drop out are twice as likely to be unemployed compared to white kids because of stereotypes. The same is true of black people with college education, they are 2X more likely to not be able to get a job after graduating, which is compounded by the fact that they are more likely to have a poor family so they cant fall back on them like their white counterparts do after graduating.Black people are poorly represented in the Government at 8% despite being 13% of the population. Should we also ignore that it is well documented that a person with a white name is much more likely to get a job or called for an interview than a person with a black name with an equal resume. The list goes on with how people of minority are being held down in this country because of their made up perceived race and that has been compounded over many generations to make the problem worse. Yes a black person can succeed but odds are against them. Escaping poverty is difficult for many reasons one of which is the mindset and the way you taught by your parents and community.

No one is calling you evil they are just asking you to look at the injustices happening and try and be apart of the solution and not ignore it. It is a fact that society in general and most individuals make judgements about people based on their skin color that is hurting them. Very few people if any think that we want to enslave a race or exterminate a race, they do think that they are not being treated equal and almost every study and fact has proven this. Yes we have gotten better as a society but that does not mean its solved. You claiming this is a war on white people and trying to make yourself a victim is wrong and is making the problem worse. You are not being shamed, you are being asked to treat people equally and to help others do the same. Having light shined onto that issue might make you uncomfortable but that is a small price to pay for what others are going through.

Nothing will change until those like you quit throwing this into white people's faces, whining incessantly about it, and start pushing for actual solutions instead. People don't like solutions; they like to rant and cry, which leads to nothing but blow back and that's exactly why we have a candidate named Trump leading one party.

We can listen to each other all day long but that will not give us any concrete results. Focus on real solutions, not "try and be apart of the solution". The latter is empty rhetoric and it's harmful to your own cause.
 
Its not even about religion. Im not religious. Its about death and Murder. You know, things humans literally cant live with.

Be honest. How many times have you went over to the middle east to vacation? Better yet, how many times have you went over to try and help innocent people? You probably never have. You know who does go over to try and help? Thats right. White Christians. People are giving their sons, daughters, and own lives to try and help. Which is a whole lot more than the social justice warriors here hiding behind their keyboards.

You know what Muslims need? A meeting, just like you suggested and talk about a way to stop growing hate coming from their religion. But you cant. You know why? Because the majority hates America and will kill you if you try. But ya, lets be real tolerant that.

I've worked all over the Middle East and in other Muslim countries and have never had a single problem. I have had nothing but good experiences with mostly good people and had a enjoyable work experience. I would not hesitate to go on vacation to a number of Middle Eastern countries, or more broadly Islamic countries. The Middle East, and the Muslim world, is subject to gross negative and false stereotyping in the west. I don't deny that there are aspects of Islamic culture and beliefs that I find disturbing, as I do many aspects of Christian belief particularly the evangelical strain of it, but like any religion or large group, it is a wide and diverse population full of it share of good people and also assholes, just like any large group of Christians. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect you've had no real dealings with many Muslims during your life.

I cannot help but wonder, is Computer and alternative identity for Carolina jazz? Or perhaps Computer noted a vacancy for resident board bigot and decided to audition for the job.
 
Nothing will change until those like you quit throwing this into white people's faces, whining incessantly about it, and start pushing for actual solutions instead. People don't like solutions; they like to rant and cry, which leads to nothing but blow back and that's exactly why we have a candidate named Trump leading one party.

We can listen to each other all day long but that will not give us any concrete results. Focus on real solutions, not "try and be apart of the solution". The latter is empty rhetoric and it's harmful to your own cause.

Couldnt disagree more. Things are changing and have been. Tensions will get higher and more issues will arise as people bring these issues to light and fight to get equal rights but in the end things will continue to get better as they have. Actual solutions are being pushed, part of solutions is addressing and bringing attention to the problem. Trump is rising because we have people who feel offended by these issues and want to fight to keep their power and show the lack of education in this country. Yes there are some smart Trump followers but they are the minority, the majority are very uneducated. The long term solution to Trump and people like him rising to power and attention is education. Also it not "my cause" its all of our cause. Addressing that you treat people different because of their skin color and realizing that is a step in the solution. Educating and improving relations is another step. Our judicial system and our police officers need better training and need a better selection process.

It wont change all the way until people like you stop pretending that you are being hurt or attacked with facts of social injustices that are happening. People take it personal and fight back against these facts and claim they dont do it. They need to realize that everyone makes judgement based on skin color, that does not make you a bad person or malicious. That means you grew up and are integrated into a society that has ingrained that into you. People need to address that in their own lives and realize when they do it and try to change those perceptions. It will take time and it will have kickback but it will happen.
 
It wont change all the way until people like you stop pretending that you are being hurt or attacked with facts of social injustices that are happening. People take it personal and fight back against these facts and claim they dont do it. They need to realize that everyone makes judgement based on skin color, that does not make you a bad person or malicious. That means you grew up and are integrated into a society that has ingrained that into you. People need to address that in their own lives and realize when they do it and try to change those perceptions. It will take time and it will have kickback but it will happen.

I don't give two ****s about "race" or skin color. And I don't make judgements based on it.
 
You do know that Hitler was a white Christian, right?

White, yes. Christian, not so much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

Aspects of Adolf Hitler's religious beliefs have been a matter of debate. He is generally believed to have been skeptical of religion, but opportunistic and shrewdly aware of its influence on politics.[1][2][3][3] Raised by an anti-clerical father[4] and practising Catholic mother, Hitler was baptised and confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church as a boy, but became hostile to Catholicism in adulthood.[5][6][7][8][9][10] In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler outlines a nihilistic philosophy, makes some religious allusions, and declares himself in favour of separation of church and state.[11][12][13] In public speeches, Hitler references providence, and sometimes said he was Christian.[14] Officially, the Party endorsed what it termed "Positive Christianity" which stripped the religion of its Jewish origins and certain key doctrines such as belief in the divinity of Christ.[15][16][17][18][19] In practice Hitler's regime persecuted the churches, and worked to reduce the influence of Christianity on society.[20]

Hitler was reluctant to make public attacks on the Church for political reasons,[21] but generally permitted or encouraged his inner-circle of anti-church radicals such as Heinrich Himmler, Joseph Goebbels and Martin Bormann to perpetrate the Nazi persecutions of the churches.[22] His remarks to confidants, as described in the Goebbels Diaries, the memoirs of Albert Speer,[23] and transcripts of Hitler's private conversations recorded by Martin Bormann in Hitler's Table Talk, indicate anti-Christian beliefs. Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity".[24] Alan Bullock considered that Hitler's central objection to Christianity, was that its teaching was "a rebellion against the natural law of selection by struggle and the survival of the fittest". ...
 
I don't give two ****s about "race" or skin color. And I don't make judgements based on it.


You are also not from this country and you are not white. I am guessing that you do occasionally make judgments but hopefully dont let them effect your actions towards people.
 
You never make a judgement based on race?

You go to a gym. You see two people, same physical dimensions but one is white and one is black. They ask you who you think can jump higher. What is your brain's first thought?

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I don't judge individuals based on their race. Surely this is normal?
 
You are also not from this country and you are not white. I am guessing that you do occasionally make judgments but hopefully dont let them effect your actions towards people.

Many Arabs are racist as hell. What does being white have to do with it? From my experience, some people care about race, and some don't.
 
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