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Nightmare scenario could be unfolding...

Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't think we beat the Clippers with or without HC. Unless they sustain an injury.

I'd rather get Houston. Of course best scenario would be one of OKC or Memphis and we have HC. Of the more likely scenarios I like Houston the best. We have the best shot to beat them imo and it would be an EPIC Clutch Fans melt down.
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I would prefer okc, then memphis, then houston, then clipps..... unless we have HC then swap clipps and Houston.
 
You know what, if we can't beat those teams, we have no business even thinking we can be a contender.

Bring it on and let the chips fall where they may.
 
All quite valid concerns. Honestly, I think the only way the Jazz win a playoff series this year is if we get Favors back at at least 80%
 
Tom Pitt said:
All quite valid concerns. Honestly, I think the only way the Jazz win a playoff series this year is if we get Favors back at at least 80%
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I agree. Hopefully he is healthy and chomping at the bit (or biting at the chomp as a buddy of mine would say) when the playoffs begin.

I think he will be ready..... I don't think our opponent will be ready for him though.
 
I'll put a positive spin on this. Gobert is the foundation of this team...PERIOD. He's locked up for 4 years. We're good.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Any seeding is going to be a hard matchup. The only thing that really matters is homecourt. If they dont get homecourt then I really dont think it makes a difference. Facing Golden State in the first round might be a dream scenario if KD is out.
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Utah can win on the road and it only takes one win to switch HCA. Also, if we end up with HCA, good chance we drop one at home and give it back. They should definitely be trying to finish in the top 4 to get it, but if they don't it's not that big of a deal. Playing the Rockettes without HCA might be better than playing the clippers with it.
 
Also, OKC, Griz and Clips all lost tonight, including the clips letting the kings come back from 18 down.

People need to stop trippin and worrying about bad things that might happen. Jazz gonna be just fine.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
. Jazz gonna be just fine.
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Road trip Jazz did not look like it. Team plays like there was no system whatsoever. Two passes and one bad shot selection over and over again. Guys like Hill and Hood who looked like major game-changers suddenly start going hero ball and choke.

I hope it is just temporary tiredness and won't be here when the postseason's first game knocks on the door. Because not even one game is joke in the playoffs. No place for letting your guard down.
 
The "nightmare that is unfolding" is not about the Jazz having home court or where they end up in the standings. It is related to the way they have been playing. When was the last time they played a good game? Something is not right and that has been clear for weeks. They can't get up for big games even when they are rested. The team not responding to Quinn? Selfishness? Locker room problems? Something is not right. Probably solvable but it needs attention right now.
 
gomretat said:
The "nightmare that is unfolding" is not about the Jazz having home court or where they end up in the standings. It is related to the way they have been playing. When was the last time they played a good game? Something is not right and that has been clear for weeks. They can't get up for big games even when they are rested. The team not responding to Quinn? Selfishness? Locker room problems? Something is not right. Probably solvable but it needs attention right now.
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I'm sorry but this is foolish.

They Jazz have gotten up for and won several big games. Or am I the only one that remembers games like @Hou and @SAS?

You do not win them all. Despite massive injuries and missed games the Jazz are the 4th seed with less than a dozen games to go. Not to mention things like one of the top Ds in the league or a 20-17 road record

If you want to look at the "last 10" I say OK let's do:

Utah 5-5
Clippers 5-5
OKC 6-4
Memphis 4-6

I think we will be just fine.
 
Stoked said:
I'm sorry but this is foolish.

They Jazz have gotten up for and won several big games. Or am I the only one that remembers games like @Hou and @SAS?

You do not win them all. Despite massive injuries and missed games the Jazz are the 4th seed with less than a dozen games to go. Not to mention things like one of the top Ds in the league or a 20-17 road record

If you want to look at the "last 10" I say OK let's do:

Utah 5-5
Clippers 5-5
OKC 6-4
Memphis 4-6

I think we will be just fine.
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I agree with you that the sky isn't falling. It's important to pay attention to other teams, not just one, to realize the ups and downs every team goes through, including the great teams.

But I will say, just cause we have had about the same record in the last 10 as our competition doesn't at all indicate we will be fine. Sure we may be fine seeding wise if the teams under us don't take advantage, but we need to be playing good ball going into the playoffs, and of course in the playoffs. Just because they are playing mediocre ball doesn't give us a pass.

We need to handle business against the lottery teams of course, but I think even more critical would be handling the 8 seed Blazers, solidfying we actually are better than them right now (in that same last 10 game span you referenced, Portland is 7-3 and 2nd in Net Rating. We are 18th with a barely positive net rating). We need to win a game or two of the GS/SAS games, ideally with them full-strength to prove we can play with the big boys right now.

This stuff is important going into the playoffs. The LAC game at home was huge, and equally huge was the away LAC game which we squandered. Yes, we are in the 4th seed, yes our overall net rating is great. How we played months ago does not matter in the slightest. It's about how we are playing now.

Limping into the playoffs can lead to a disappointing exit and a catastrophic loss of an All-Star. This is the nightmare scenario. And the only way we are "just fine" is if we can WIN.
 
I can agree that the Jazz need to up their game. The playoffs are a whole new thing. Every game is tooth and nail.

Also implications on the off season like you said.

But I think the Jazz merely stumbled, it happens. Jazz will show up in the playoffs.
 
Well, the 7th seed is pretty much out of reach, so that's good. I used to think that HC didn't matter too much, but I think I was wrong on that. The jazz need to get right and lock up #4.
 
NAOS said:
Well, the 7th seed is pretty much out of reach, so that's good. I used to think that HC didn't matter too much, but I think I was wrong on that. The jazz need to get right and lock up #4.
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You know what... now that I'm looking at it, this week the Jazz could do wonders locking up the 4th.

So the Jazz have 9 games left. v Pelicans, @ Kings, v Wizards, @ Spurs, v Blazers, v Wolves, @ Blazers, @ Warriors, v Spurs.

The Clippers only have 7 games left. v Wizards, @ Suns, v Lakers, v Mavs, @ Spurs, v Rockets, v Kings.

The Thunder have 10 games left. @ Mavs, @ Magic, v Spurs, v Hornets, v Bucks, @ Grizzlies, @ Suns, @ Nuggets, @ Wolves, v Nuggets

Jazz go 5-4
Clippers would have to go 5-2 for 4th
Thunder would have to go 8-2 for 4th.
IF Thunder go 8-2, Clippers go 5-2 for 5th, dropping Jazz to 6th in 3-way tie

Jazz go 4-5
Clippers would have to go 4-3 for 4th
Thunder would have to go 7-3 for 4th
IF Thunder go 7-3, Clippers go 4-3 for 5th, dropping Jazz to 6th in a 3-way tie

Jazz go 3-6
Clippers would have to go 3-4 for 4th
Thunder would have to go 6-4 for 4th
IF Thunder go 6-4, Clippers go 3-4 for 5th, dropping Jazz to 6th in a 3-way tie

I don't think it's out of the question to expect the Jazz to be favored in 5 of the remaining 9. v Pelicans, @ Kings, v Wizards, v Blazers, v Wolves. Maybe GS or SAS if they rest. But the Clippers should also be favored in 5 or even 6 (if Rockets rest) of their remaining 7.

EDIT: Unfortunately for the Jazz I was mistaken. I thought division winners won tie-breakers, but that is only for 3-way or more ties. For 2-way ties, Head-To-Head record comes first and then division winners.
 
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MDAV28 said:
You know what... now that I'm looking at it, this week the Jazz could do wonders locking up the 4th.

So the Jazz have 9 games left. v Pelicans, @ Kings, v Wizards, @ Spurs, v Blazers, v Wolves, @ Blazers, @ Warriors, v Spurs.

The Clippers only have 7 games left. v Wizards, @ Suns, v Lakers, v Mavs, @ Spurs, v Rockets, v Kings.

The Thunder have 10 games left. @ Mavs, @ Magic, v Spurs, v Hornets, v Bucks, @ Grizzlies, @ Suns, @ Nuggets, @ Wolves, v Nuggets

Jazz go 5-4
Clippers would have to go 6-1 for 4th since division winner owns tiebreaker
Thunder would have to go 8-2 for 4th.
IF Thunder go 8-2, Clippers could go 5-2 for 5th, dropping Jazz to 6th in 3-way tie

Jazz go 4-5
Clippers would have to go 5-2 for 4th
Thunder would have to go 7-3 for 4th
IF Thunder go 7-3, Clippers could go 4-3 for 5th, dropping Jazz to 6th in a 3-way tie

Jazz go 3-6
Clippers would have to go 4-3 for 4th
Thunder would have to go 6-4 for 4th
IF Thunder go 6-4, Clippers could go 3-4 for 5th, dropping Jazz to 6th in a 3-way tie

I don't think it's out of the question to expect the Jazz to be favored in 5 of the remaining 9. v Pelicans, @ Kings, v Wizards, v Blazers, v Wolves. Maybe GS or SAS if they rest. But the Clippers should also be favored in 5 or even 6 (if Rockets rest) of their remaining 7.
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On your italicized. That is not the case anymore as far as HCA goes. It goes v. record and the Clips have that.
 
Stoked said:
On your italicized. That is not the case anymore as far as HCA goes. It goes v. record and the Clips have that.
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Oh really? I knew division winners don't get HCA guaranteed but I thought division winners win the tie breakers.
 
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